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[amakurunamateka] FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: *DHR* Et si le co lonel Theone ste Bagosora n'en était pas le cerveau

 

Nyabuna banyarwanda bavandimwe  ni muve mu bidafututse maze twihe agaciro dusabwa.
Hali abashotse umucikacumu Jean D. Mbanda ngo yabajije icyo atunva. Aho kumusobanulira niba bo babyunva, ahubwo bagana inzira yo kumutera ubwoba (ibi ntibihwitse, bavandimwe)! Nyamara ibyo Mbanda avuga birahumura abantu ndetse bigeze naho bihishura ko bulya Colonel Bagasora hali abatutsi yakijije, biyongera kub'iwe. Twebwe rwose iki gikorwa cyo gukiza abantu turakimushimira byimazeyo tukanashima bwana Mbanda utagihisha, kuko tugaya cyane indashima, zigera naho ziremera abazimanye zishakisha inyungu mu ngoma ya RPF.
 
Bulya koko za genocides zihisha ukuli kumwe, zikagaragaza gusa ibishimisha abazikama, nka kumwe Gatolika yirwaga irenganya abapagani ibahiga ngo ntibemeye Yezu wabo cyangwa se igaca igitsina-gore kwegera altari mu gihe cya misa, ibyo byose nta mhanvu isobanutse bifite, ali polotiki nsa. 
Bwana Mbanda kuba abaza ibyo utunva kandi ku karubanda ni uburenganzira bwe ni n'ubupfura buhanitse, nta wushyira mu gaciro wagatinyutse kubimuziza, kuko ali kimwe mu burenganzira bwe nk'ikiremwa muntu (Droits de l'homme dans le monde d'aujourd'hui). 
Uruzi nibura iyo baba bamuha igisobanuro niba bagifite aho kwishora mu manyanganya no kumwuka inabi bamutera ubwoba, kandi yerekana facts ze zitali incurano!
Abanyarwanda nibyo, twaralyasiye, aliko ibi ntibiduha uburenganzira bwo gukumbanya buli wese udutungiye agatoki aho ibitunvikana byanamye. 
 
Nyabuna mwibuke ko igihe umu-Papa n'abapadiri be bahatiye abajaji kwicisha Galileya ngo arabatobera ahishura ko ali isi izenguruka ku zuba, abadiyakoni n'abakristu bo barabyitaje bituma ababakomotseho ubu ntakibazo bafite cyo kubaho kuli iyi si izenguruka ku zuba! Mwacyo tukiyiganira aba badiyakoni n'abakristu raa?       


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From: fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 00:20:42 -0400
Subject: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: *DHR* Et si le co lonel Theone ste Bagosora n'en était pas le cerveau

 

Basomyi banditsi banyarubuga,
Ni inshingano yacu twese kwamagana abantu abo ari bo bose bashaka gucecekesha abandi bakoresheje iterabwoba, iterarubwa, n'imvungo nyandagazi. Turaharanira ko haba demokarasi mu gihugu cyacu n'ukwishyira ukizana mu kugira uburenganzira bunyuranye harimo n'uburengazira bwo kuvugisha ukuri no gushakisha ukuri. Ni uburenganzira busesesuye bwa mugenzi wacu Jean Daniel Mbanda bwo kuvugisha ukuri kwe no gushakisha ukuri ku kintu icyo ari cyo cyose ngo ikimenye by'imvaho. Jean Daniel Mbanda ni umucikacumu wa jenoside yakorewe abatutsi. Ni uburenganzira bwe gucukumbura kugirango amenye ukuri kose, avumbure n'ikinyoma cyaba cyarihishe inyuma y'iriya jenoside.Birazwi ko ubutegetsi bwa FPR ari ubutegetsi bwubakiye ku kinyoma, ari nayo mpamvu umuvugizi wabwo kuri izi mbuga ariwe Tatien Ndorimana Miheto yafashe iyambere mu kubwira Mbanda no kutubwira twese ko "bazamumena" ko bazamwica bamujijije ugushakisha ukuri kwe, kuko uko gushakisha ukuri kwe bizashyira hanze ikinyoma cya FPR. FPR igenda yigamba ngo yahagaritse jenoside yakorewe abatutsi kandi abatechniciens bayo(FPR) bari bivanze mu bakoraga iyo jenoside, abakada ba FPR I New York barimo babuza ONU/UN gutabara mu Rwanda,  abasilikari ba APR nabo barimo bakora jenoside hutu hirya no hino ku misozi y'u Rwanda; nyuma y'ibyo FPR ikaba yarigize umucunguzi w'abatutsi ibabeshya ngo u Rwanda rwongeye kubaho rudategekwa na FPR bapfa bagashira kandi atari byo. FPR ni rusarurira mu nduru z'amoko; kuva yafata ubutegetsi mu 1994 kugeza ubu icyo yakoze ni ukwenyegeza inzika n'urwango, guhoora no kwihimura hagati y'abatutsi n'abahutu ikanabishyira mu bikorwa. Abatutsi b'inyangamugayo nka Mbada bashaka kumenya ukuri nyakuri ku byababayeho, Tatien Ndolimana na FPR ye ntibabashaka kuri iyi si, ari nayo mpamvu Ndolimana yandikiye Mbanda ko " bazamusekura" ko "bazamumena". Agafuni kajanjagura umutwe ka FPR nka kariya abaDMI bayo baherutse gukubita Rwigara Assinapol bakamumena umutwe, nta munyarwanda utakazi.Niyo mpamvu twebwe abanyarwanda bo mw'ishyaka PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka mu mahame yaryo rishyira imbere "KUVUGA UKURI, KUVUGISHA UKURI, NO GUSHAKISHA UKURI", dushyigiye ku mugaragaro Jean Daniel Mbanda muri demarches yiyemeje zo gukurikirana no gushakisha ukuri kuri jenoside yakorewe abatutsi kuko tuzi ko kumenya uko kuri byadufasha twese kubaka u Rwanda rw'abanyarwanda TWESE nta n'umwe ushyizwe ku ruhande, nta n'umwe uhejejwe imahanga. Twemera kandi ko abantu ari bo bukungu bwa mbere bwa buri gihugu, bityo tukaba dushinganye umwe muri abo bantu dushobora kubura/gutakaza hakurikijwe amagambo yuzuye ubwicanyi Tatien Ndolimana yakoreshe yandikira umwe muri twe abasomyi n'abanditsi bo kuri uru rubuga ari we Jean Daniel Mbanda. Ibyo Tatien Ndolimana wigize umuvugizi wa FPR kuri izi mbuga akoreye Mbanda biragaragza koko ko FPR atari ishyaka rya politiki rishishikajwe no gutega amatwi igitekerezo cya buri mwenegihigu, ahubwo ko nkuko nayo ubwayo ibyivigira ko ari UMURYANGO, umuryango w'abaterabwoba n'abicanyi(a terrorist and criminal organization/une organisation terroriste et criminelle). Ni yompamviu turangije dusaba moderateur w'uru rubuga DHR Maitre Innocent Twagiramungu kwirukana kano kanya Bwana Tatien Ndolimana Miheto kuri DHR kubera ziriya menaces de mort/death threats yakoreye umwe mu basomyi-banditsi bo kuri uru rubuga ari we Jean Daniel  Mbanda.
(Dr. Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi w'ishyaka PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigendera ku mahame y'ubworoherane(tolerance), ubwihanganirane(patience), ubwubahane(respect mutual), ubusabane(concorde), UBUNYAKURI(verite/sincerite/truthfulness, gukorera mu mucyo(transparency and accountability), n'abanyarwnda bose gusangira ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi, ntawe ubundikiye ipfunwe, ntawe ugarigiye undi, ntawe uherekeje undi, ntawe uragiye undi nkuragiye inka ihene cyangwa intama, ntawaje kuvumba iwabo).

2015-08-28 21:05 GMT-04:00 Jean Mbanda mbandajean@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
 



Bavandimwe , Banyabugingo,namwe mwese Bacikacumu ,



Mukibaho?



Oya nimumbwire,



Ubu aya magambo ntarenze ikimenyetso cy'uburwayi?



Ni ukuli njye ndabona halimo "ubukunguzi".

Ubu mpinduwe "immonde, ingrat et lâche" kuko gusa
navuze icyo ntumva ku micirire y'urubanza rwa Colonel
Bagosora?

Ruriya rubanza se ninjye waruciye ?

Oya nimumbwire .

Ubuse aba batumye Tatien Ndolimana kwandika ibi( kuko we
atatinyuka kubyibwiriza ni ukuli!) Barumva iyi forme ya
terrorisme ariyo yambuza gushakisha kumenya icyo data ,
mama, abandimwe banjye bazize. Koko?

Nabonye hari abazana incyuro ngo Bagosora yaba yarankijije ,
basa nabifuza ngo iyo mfa aho kurokorwa na
Bagosora.Nagorango abo bose mbabwire ibintu bibili



1) Colonel Bagosora ntiyankijije ndi njyenyine yadukijije
tuli imiryango itatu hafi abantu 16( cumi na batandatu)
.Yaragiye nyuma y' imunota mirongo itatu aywoherereza
imodoka.Ku munota wa nyuma umwe muli iyo miryango wisubiyeho
ngo bagiye kutwica.Twarawuhendahenze uratunanira.Twuriye
imodoka(land cruser long chassis) tuli abantu cumi na ba
bili niba nibuka halimo n'umushoferi na convoyeur.
Twasohotse juste abicanyi batugezeho .

ICYI GIKORWA CYONYINE TURAKIMUSHIMIRA KANDI DUSENGA IMANA
NGO IZAMUKORERE IBYO ISHAKA KUKO ALIYO MUCAMANZA MUKURU.



2) Njye nsanga ahubwo aho kubigira incyuro abacika cumu bose
na iriya "ibuka" yirirwa mu myigaragambyo idafite
icyo itumariye twali dukwiye gufatanya tukamusabira nibura
ko ashyirwa parmi LES JUSTES.None nta soni?



3)Ndagirango nibutse Ndolimana n'abandi barwayi nkawe ko
Data yishwe ntacyo yavuze. Nibabishobora bazankoreshe( ho)
icyo bashaka aliko nzaba navuze icyo ntekereza. NGO AHO
KUNIGwa n'IJAMBOWANIGWA NI UWO URIBWIYE.

Ikindi kandi bajye bibuka ko URUCIRA MU KASO RUGATWARA
NYOKO.



NABABWIYE MWESE KO NATANGIYE URUGAMBA RWO "KWANGA
ICYINYOMA"

KANDI NTA MUNTU N'UMWE NTA N'IGIKORWA NA CYIMWE
BISHOBORA KUMPAGARIKA.

Ahasigaye nimwanjwe ngo murasebya MBANDA.nababwira iki.



NGAHO NIMUSOME IBILI HASI AHA!



-Mme Agnès,

-Mr Mbanda,

-Mmes/Mrs qui estimez que la lutte contre les
négationnistes d`un génocide est un combat innoportun,



Je ne fais pas que ™gukangisha gusekura Mbanda". En
effet, si Mbanda Jean persiste et signe qu`il estime que le
monstre cerveau du génocide perpétré contre les Tutsi,
j`ai nommé le tristement célèbre Colonnel Bagosora
Theoneste est un innocent victime du TPIR d`Arusha,
turamusekura, turamumena. Si par ses expressions et
appellations minimisantes il persévère à profaner et
amalgamer un genocide reconnu par le concert des nations. Eh
bien, nous ne le regarderons pas les bras croisés.



Entendez par turamusekura, que nous enclanchons nos armes de
lutte contre les imondes qui nient, minimisent et ou
profanent ledit génocide. Que Mbanda se méprenne en
estimant les rescapés incapables de lutter contre la
dernière étape du génocide auquel nous avons survécu,
est une chose, qu`il comette le crime de negation et
profanation de ce génocide et s`en sorte impuni, est une
autre chose mais qui n`aura pas lieu kuko tuzamusekura.



Quant à vous qui estimez que lutter contre le
négationnisme d`un génocide est un combat sans raison d`
être puisqu`il ne ressucitera pas les genocidés, sachez qu
le négationnisme est le parent de l'idéologie du
genocide. Bien plus, il est impossible d`honnorer
sereinement la memoire des victimes d`un génocide qui subit
negation, minimisation, justification et profanation. De
même un rescapé qui ne combat le négationnisme d`un
génocide qui a décimé les siens est un ingrat ou un
lâche qui trahit une des principales missions pour
lesquelles il est en vie.



"...L'homme se decouvre en se mesurant avec
l'obstacle..." (Antoine de St
Exupery)"...L'exrêmisme dans la défense de la
liberté n'est pas un vice  et la modération dans la
défense de la justice n'est pas une vertu..."( B.
Goldwater)"...Abatabizi ntibicwa no kutabimenya,ahubwo
bicwa no kubimenya nabi..."(D.Buturo)      



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En date de : Ven 28.8.15, tatienndolimana miheto
tatien2miheto@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]
<Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a
écrit :



Objet: Re : Re: Re : Re : Re: Re : Re : Re : *DHR* Et si
le co lonel Theone ste Bagosora n'en était pas le
cerveau

À: "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes fr"
<Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>

Date: Vendredi 28 août 2015, 11h16





 





















-Mme Agnès,-Mr

Mbanda,-Mmes/Mrs

qui estimez que la lutte contre les négationnistes d`un

génocide est un combat innoportun,



Je

ne fais pas que ™gukangisha gusekura Mbanda". En

effet, si Mbanda Jean persiste et signe qu`il estime que
le

monstre cerveau du génocide perpétré contre les
Tutsi,

j`ai nommé le tristement célèbre Colonnel Bagosora

Theoneste est un innocent victime du TPIR d`Arusha,

turamusekura, turamumena. Si par ses expressions et

appellations minimisantes il persévère à profaner et

amalgamer un genocide reconnu par le concert des nations.
Eh

bien, nous ne le regarderons pas les bras

croisés.

Entendez

par turamusekura, que nous enclanchons nos armes de
lutte

contre les imondes qui nient, minimisent et ou profanent

ledit génocide. Que Mbanda  se méprenne en estimant
les

rescapés incapables de lutter contre la dernière étape
du

génocide auquel nous avons survécu, est une chose,
qu`il

comette le crime de negation et profanation de ce
génocide

et s`en sorte impuni, est une autre chose mais qui
n`aura

pas lieu kuko tuzamusekura.

Quant

à vous  qui estimez que lutter contre le
négationnisme

d`un génocide est un combat sans raison d` être
puisqu`il

ne ressucitera pas les genocidés, sachez qu le

négationnisme est le parent de l'idéologie du

genocide. Bien plus, il est impossible

d`honnorer sereinement la memoire des victimes d`un

génocide qui subit negation, minimisation, justification
et

profanation. De même un rescapé qui ne combat le

négationnisme d`un génocide qui a décimé les siens
est

un ingrat ou un lâche qui trahit une des principales

missions pour lesquelles il est en vie.



Envoyé

depuis Yahoo Mail pour Android
De:"agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr

[Democracy_Human_Rights]"

<Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>

Date:Ven. j Aoû. PM à 15:21

Objet:Re: Re : Re : Re: Re : Re : Re :

*DHR* Et si le co lonel Theone ste Bagosora n'en
était

pas le cerveau





 



















Wibeshye Mpatswenumugabo,

Uwakangishije Mbanda kumusekura ni

Tasiyani Ndolimana ntabwo ari Twahirwa

Semakweli.

Ni

ukubyitondera!





































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-« Ce dont j’ai le plus peur, c’est des gens qui croient que, du jour au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre ».

-“The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

-“I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.

-“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

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