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[amakurunamateka.com] FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: *DHR* Nyiramasuhuko yashimangiye arira ko ari umwere

 

Mukomere banyarubuga mwese na bwana Bangamwabo.
Turashima ko buliya mwagiye kureba  iliya "Butare prefecture rebelle, 2004" twabarangiye ku ya 26 avril. Ubwo mwabonye ibibambisha aba bavandimwe bacu bo muli Sud aho biva, akaba alibyo bagombaga gusenya kuko amasentima no kulira ntacyo byazamara!
Uwatubera imfura ashaka kutumenyesha ko yasomye biliya bitabo yasubiza utu tubazo tubili:
 
1. Prof Guichaoua amaze kureba mu runturuntu rwali rubuditse muli Butare, yakoze ibyatinyukwa na bake agerageza kurushyira ku ka rubanda. Abonye ko ali inzarwe zinuka cyane kandi atazitanga uko zili kuko zitanakomokaga cyane kubo bamubwiye kubishyiraho, yanga guhara mission ye ya consultant alishora, aliko ashyiraho akagobeko ngo hatazagira ubimuhora, agira ati: "Ibi nanditse hashobora kuba hali ibitalibyo cyangwa se ali ibihengekeranyo (approximations). Mbaye mbisabiye imbabazi ku bazabisoma"(a)
Yego cyangwa se oya, mwabonye aho byanditse?
 
2. Prof Guichaoua yabonye inzangano/irondakarere, ubugambanyi, ubuliganya n'ubuhendanyi biteye ubwoba. Baramubwiye ko hali abakiga umurengera bali baraje gutwara ubukire n'imyanya y'abanyabutare, bakayonona, bigatuma ishakira amakiliro ahandi. Nuko akora listi y'abagenga za  parastaux na projets nationaux 11 muli Butare, dore ko administration territoriale na partis politiques byo byali bigenewe abakomoka muli Butare bonyine guhera 1991-1992.
Asanga hali abantu 44 bali mu myanya yo hejuru y'ibyo bigo 11. Muli abo 44, abakomokaga i Butare yabonye 8, aba Byumba abona  4, aba Ruhengeri 7 n'aho ab'i Gisenyi abona 6.  Abakunda imibare ni kuvuga  ko ku maprefegitura 10 yali agize Urwanda, capital yo ni iyatwese, buli prefegitura yagombaga kugira 4,4,  noneho aya maprefegitura-kiga atatu akaba yaragize yo 17 aho kugira 13,2. Abavugishije Butare amagambure bakaba ali baliya 3,8 barenze kuli 13,2. 
Prof Guichaoua rero ntiyiliwe asobanura ibi byose ahubwo yabizingiye mu kintu kimwe cya 40% ( 17/44=0,386) udashishoje abona ali kinshi, nuko aba alicyo atunga abahigaga abakiga nka kumwe muli tauromachie basembura ibimasa babitunga bya bitambaro by'umutuku.   
Yego cyangwa se oya, mwabonye aho iyi listi ili, muranayisoma? 
 
Abakurambere bati: "Abasangira ubusa bitana ibisambo. Amata alimo gishegesha ntavura ". 
 
 a : "Malgre les efforts..., d'inevitables erreurs et approximations subsistent certainement. D'avance, je prie les lecteurs de bien vouloir m'en excuser. Guichaoua"
 

To: fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr; agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr
From: fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 09:50:59 +0000
Subject: Re: Fwd: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: *DHR* Nyiramasuhuko yashimangiye arira ko ari umwere

 

Biriya bintu by'iwacu ni bizarres.
Kugeza ubu, usibye KAMBANDA, hari undi muntu wari wemera icyaha muri bariya bitwa ko bari abayobozi?
 
Ubucamanza ni amayobera. Ku bwanjye numva batagombye gukatira burundu umuntu:
- Utarempeye ibyo aregwa cyangwa ngo
-Habe ikimenyetso ndakuka nk'amafoto cyangwa amajwi
Ntabwo bagombye gukatira burundi umuntu igihe cyose hari doute na ntoya.
Kuvuga ngo dukurikije ibyo runaka yavuze turumva icyaha kiguhama, byagombye gucibwa mu manza.
Personnellement, Nkeka ko bariya bantu benshi bakatiwe Arusha ari abere ku byo baregwa.
Bashoboora kuba bafite ibindi byaha ariko biriya baregwa by'itsembatsemba nkeka ko byabaguye hejuru nka bene ngofero bose. Umubingwa wabibatuye hejuru arareba akisekera.
Inkuru mbi ni Turatsinzwe.


De : "kota venant kotakori@hotmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>
À : "fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>; "agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr" <agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr>
Envoyé le : Dimanche 26 avril 2015 15h27
Objet : Fwd: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: *DHR* Nyiramasuhuko yashimangiye arira ko ari umwere

 







Aliko se tubaze kuko kubaza bitaciwe. 
Uyu mubyeyi n'umuhungu we baba barasomye ibyo bwana Guichaoua yabanditseho muli "Butare prefecture rebelle, 2004", cyane cyane uko yakoporoye akanasobanura (interpreter) agenda ya Pauline Nyiramasuhuko muli Tome 2? Ababunganira barabe barasobanuye bihagije uko Guichaoua yabadoze, naho ubundii amalira ashobora kutagira icyo abamalira. 




Le 25-04-15 07:15, agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] a écrit :
 



Elysée Mpirwa - Izuba rirashe


Ku myaka 69, Nyiramasuhuko yakatiwe gufungwa burundu muri Kamena 2015 ariko mu bujurire bwe mu mvugo iherekejwe n'amarira, mu Kinyarwanda yagize ati "mu buzima bwanjye kuva nkiri muto naharaniye guteza imbere abandi bagore. Ndabarahiriye ko ntari umuntu ushobora gukora ibyaha nk'ibyatumye urukiko runkatira iki gihano."

Yakomeje agira ati "Ndi umubyeyi nk'abandi. Nababajwe no kumenya ko abagore bari mu batumye umuhungu wanjye ndetse nanjye dufungwa. Ariko ndabababariye."

Nyiramasuhuko yakomeje ati "Ndabasaba kunsubiza uburenganzira bwanjye (… ). Birashoboka ko nakurikiranwe kubera ko nari minisitiri, kuko nari umurwanashyaka w'ishyaka rya Perezida Juvénal Habyarimana wari umaze kwicwa."

Kuri we ngo "abantu bashakaga kugaragaza ko nta kabuza umugore w'umubeyi, yagize uruhare mu mahano yabaye."

Yasoje avuga ko atekereza ko urukiko ruzategeko ko arekurwa kugira arebe nyina wifuza kumubona we n'umuhungu we kuko ngo ari hafi gushiramo umwuka.

Ntahobali we ntiyagaragaje akababaro nka nyina, ariko na we yasabye ko yahanagurwaho ibyo aregwa kuko ngo yagizwe umwicanyi kandi atari we.

Arusha: Nyiramasuhuko yasutse amarira akomeza gushimangira ko ari umwere
 





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