UK's M16 should explain what intelligence business UK had in the past and has now with Rwanda. General Karake is a Rwandan citizen. As far as we know there has not been any terrorism attack in Rwanda because this country is not a target of terrorism attack. It is a small and poorer country, Except some few Western Embassies, there are no other Western interests in Rwanda.
Such meetings M16 and African spies could be relevant if for example there were taking place with Kenyan spy because Kenya country is dealing with terrorism on daily basis and Kenyan had suffered from terrorism massacres in recent months. These meetings could relevant if they were held between M16 and other nations' spies such as Uganda, Nigeria, Central African Republic, Mali which have experienced deadly terrorism. If Rwanda was chosen by UK to represent Eastern African nations in finding help from UK in relation intelligence matters to deal with terrorism in East Africa, then the public should know this.
Most Kagame's military and intelligence officials have been in these positions from 1990 until present.
They fought with Kagame the guerrilla war that led to Rwandan genocide of Hutu, Twa and Tutsi communities. Therefore, we believe that UK's M16 is aware of the crimes these Kagame's officials committed in Rwanda, RDC , Burundi and Uganda. UK' M16 should know who committed the assassinations of the four former Presidents of Rwanda, RDC and Burundi. If General Karake is not extradited to Spain, this will confirm the cover-up of UK and it its intelligence services' involvement in Rwanda war, genocide and war crimes and political assassinations that took place in these four countries.
On Friday, 26 June 2015, 11:18, "Alfred Nganzo alfrednganzo@yahoo.com [RealitesAfricaines]" <RealitesAfricaines@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:
In the following 5 five years, it is predicted that another Head of State will be assassinated in East Africa. It might be Museveni, Kabila or Nkurunziza. All of them are now involved in political struggle to stay on power in addition to Kagame's supported conflicts in Burundi and DRC. He hosts war criminals from these conflicts. He has triggered a refugee crisis in the region. So, the frequent travels of Kagame's spies to meet foreign spies in the West including UK M16 are preparing something bad in that region. Let's wait and see !
On Friday, 26 June 2015, 11:14, Alfred Nganzo <alfrednganzo@yahoo.com> wrote:
In the following 5 five years, it is predictable that another Head of State will be assassinated in East Africa. It might be Museveni, Kabila or Nkurunziza. All of them are now involved in political struggle to stay on power in addition to Kagame's supported conflicts in Burundi and RDC. He hosts war criminals from these conflicts. He has triggered a refugee crisis in the region. So, the frequent travels of Kagame's spies to meet foreign spies in the West including UK M16 are preparing something bad in the region. Let's wait and see !
On Friday, 26 June 2015, 10:20, "Samuel Desire sam4des@yahoo.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:
The legal defence of Kagame's spy, General Karake is already questionable and not credible. General Karake's legal defence is political motivated.
The defence team includes the wife of Tony Blair who is also has been an advisor of Kagame for the last 20 years. Tony Blair worked informally for Kagame during Kagame's guerrilla war and then this was formalised when Kagame took power. This is a matter of conflict of interests and credibility that the judge should consider in Karake's extradition hearings.
We believe that Chairy Blair should not be not be part of Karake's defence team. Also the planned meetings with the head of M16 now brings new elements in the Rwandan genocide and war. We believe that probably M16 knows or was involved in the assassination of former President Habyarimana and other three Presidents in Burundi and Democratic Republic of Congo. Karake and Kagame were involved in these assassinations. It is unbelievable that M16 which regularly meets Karake and other Kagame's spies, M16 did not meet or work with them during the preparations of Kagame's war and its implementation that involved the above assassinations.
Additionally, including the wife of the UK former Prime Minister in the defence team and Karake revelations that he was in the UK to meet with the head of M16 is an attempt to intimidate the judges and the court involved in this case. All this is the evidence of the trail of UK 'involvement in Rwandan war and genocide.
From: Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>
To: "africarealities@yahoogroups.com" <africarealities@yahoogroups.com>; "realitesafricaines@yahoogroupes.fr" <realitesafricaines@yahoogroupes.fr>; "amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com" <amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com>; F. <urwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>; F. <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 25 June 2015, 22:46
Subject: Rwandan top spy, Karake was due to meet with the head of Britain's foreign intelligence, M16
There was planned meeting between Karake the head of Britain's foreign intelligence, M16
What was that meeting for ?
Answer:
· Kagame is cheating the head of M16 that Rwanda is important ally to UK by helping UK intelligence work in East Africa.
· or Rwanda truly spies other Eastern African countries, in particular East African leaders on behalf of UK
· or Karake was reporting to the head of M16 about the spying work carried out by Rwanda on behalf of the head of M16.
· Or Karake was bringing an updated new list of UK Hutu exiles to be arrested or to be be refused refugee status or British nationality ?
Rwanda spy chief Karenzi Karake 'in UK to meet MI6'
The Rwandan spy chief arrested in the UK over alleged war crimes came to London to meet the head of MI6, sources have told BBC Newsnight.Karenzi Karake, the head of Rwanda's intelligence services, was to meet Alex Younger last Thursday morning but the meeting was cancelled at the last moment, according to those familiar with the general's itinerary.Gen Karake, 54, was granted £1m ($1.6m) bail on Thursday at Westminster Magistrates Court ahead of a full extradition hearing in October.Lawyers acting for him, including Cherie Booth QC, made clear they believe the charges against him are politically motivated.He was arrested at Heathrow airport on Saturday under a European Arrest Warrant on behalf of authorities in Spain where he is wanted in connection with alleged war crimes against civilians.Political embarrassment
Gen Karake appeared in court wearing a green and yellow jumpsuit. He has been held since Saturday at Belmarsh high security prison in east London.Whitehall sources neither confirmed nor denied details of MI6's engagement with Gen Karake.The claim that he was due to meet Britain's most senior intelligence official will add to political embarrassment over his detention.THURSDAY, 25 JUNE 2015 19:51 IAN ORTEGARwanda's Chief of Intelligence, General Karenzi Karake has been granted conditional bail by the Westminster court in London. Following a European Arrest Warrant, Gen. Karenzi had been detained at London Heathrow Airport on Saturday as he boarded a plane back to Rwanda. In its judgement, court said Gen. Karenzi would be freed once a bail of $1.6 million is paid and other bail conditions have been met. Among the war crimes that Gen. Karenzi is accused of by a Spanish court include giving orders of massacres in the wake of the 1994 genocide. Gen. Karenzi is also accused of ordering the killing of Spanish aid workers in 1997.Earlier in the day, President Kagame had launched a scathing verbal attack on the UK Government and other Western governments accusing them of double standards, arrogance and contempt. According to the BBC Newsnight programme, the intelligence chief was in the UK to meet the head of Britain's foreign intelligence, M16. Gen. Karenzi will be required to report daily to Police until he's vindicated and will be expected to reside at the high commissioner's house or at a house rented by the Rwandan embassy.- See more at: http://www.independent.co.ug/news/136-the-news-today/10367-gen-karenzi-granted-conditional-bail#sthash.LReS3aVl.dpuf
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