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[amakurunamateka.com] FW: [fondationbanyarwanda] FW: Réf.: *DHR* Inama nziza naha Gasana A. Ukuri kuratinda ariko ...ntigusiba!

 

Ndabashimye bwana Dr A. Gasana, kuko hali byinshi muduhamiliza kandi bifite akamaro
1. Kuli point No2 yanyu munsi aha, muti "...kuva 1975 MRND parti unique parti-Etat yajyaho kugeza 1/1/1991 umunyarwanda wese yaba wowe yaba jye yaba uriya Habimana Bonaventure uvuga ndetse n'umwana ukiri mu nda yanyina bose twese twari muri MRND par obligation, wabishaka utabishaka. Ntabwo yari libre choix yacu. Libre choix imaze kuboneka nyuma ya 1/7/1991 amashyaka menshi amaze kuvuka MRND ibaye ishyaka nk'ayandi yose, navuye muri MRND kimwe n'abandi bose batari bashyigikiye amatwara yayo ya politiki njya muri MDR kuko amahame ya politiki yayo ari yo yari ajyanye n'ibitekerezo byanjye bya politiki. Nkwibutse kandi mubo uvuga bari barembeje  Habyarimana ngo yemere amashyaka menshi n'abanyarwanda barimo nka babandi 30 basinye inyandko mu 1990 basaba ko u Rwanda ruva muri politiki y'ishyaka rimwe rukumbi MRND rukajya mu politiki ishingiye ku mashyaka menshi buri munyarwanda akaba ari we wihitiramo ishyaka ajyamo aho kumushyira mw''ishyaka runaka ku ngufu za Leta nkuko byari bimeze ku ngoma ya MRND(nk'uko binameze ubu ku ngoma ya FPR kuko hari abantu bayirimo ku ngufu za leta)".
 
Ibi rwose niko kuli. Murunva rero ko nyuma ya 1/7/1991, MRND parti unique yali ibumbye abanyarwanda twese ntayongeye kubaho. Bamwe bahise bajya muyandi mashyaka, abandi biberaho nta mashyaka balimo, abunvaga bagishyigikiye Habyarimana barema MRNDD yagombye kubuguza mu ruhando rw'amashyaka menshi. Ni ubuhendanyi rero kuvuga ko MRND parti unique yakomeje no muli multipartisme, uvuga ko MRNDD aliyo MRND parti unique. Kirazira rwose gufata umwana uvutse kuli Se (urugero: Dr A. Gasana) ukavuga ko uwo mwana ali Se (urugero: Dr A. Gasana), ukitiranya ubutegetsi bwa Salvakiri n'ubwa el Bashir ngo kuko habayeho Sudani imwe.  
 
2. Points No3 na 4 yanyu, ntimusobonura bihagije imhanvu ya biliya bice mwimbitse, kandi mu gihugu cyali cyali mu ntambara murakwepa kwerekana ko itsindwa lyacyo n'andi mabi yose aliho byakomotse. Biranditse ko Umuhutukazi Minisitiri w'Intebe Agata Uwilingiyimana yali alliee wa RPF (Guichaoua 2004), ubwo n'abali mu gikundi cye. Hanyuma akaba anayobora Gouvernement ya Rwanda irwanya RPF (ngaho nk'ubu tekereza 1er ministre wa France cyangwa se vice- president wa USA ubu ali ba allies ba ISIS,  ubwo president Holande cyangwa se Obama bazatsinda intambara barwana na ISIS bate?).  None se mushaka ko Gouvernememt yanyu ya coalition iba yaregukanye intsinzi kuli RPF ite?
Uliya mututsi  F. Karamira urabona nawe ko yabaye allie wa Habyarimana, atavuga rumwe na RPF none mwamugize umwextremiste. Ubwo se "moderate" mwunva yali muntu ki mu Rwanda? Ni se uwakoranaga na RPF atavuga rumwe na Habyarimana cyangwa se yali muntu ki wundi? Nkwibireho, Guichaoua yarabikemuye, yandika  ko "extremiste" mu Nduga  yali umuhutu utarakoranaga na RPF.
 
3. Kuli point No 6 yanyu muti: "Abayobozi ba MDR:Twagiramungu, Nsengiyaremye, Karamira  na Murego ntabwo ari bo bari des acteurs politiques bonyine muri politiki nyarwanda yo muri kiriya gihe. Ils n'etaient meme pas les plus importants. Hari uwari umaze imyaka 20 ari perezida wa Repubulika y'u Rwanda ari we Habyarimana na MRND ye wari ushyigikiwe n'igihugu cy'u Bufaransa, hari Kagame na FPR ye yari ishyigikiwe na perezida Museveni n'igihugu cye cya Uganda n'abanyamerika n'abongereza, hari n'abandi nka Gatabazi na Nzamurambaho ba  PSD, Mugenzi na Ntamabyariro ba  PL, Nayinzira wa PDC, Bumaya Andre Habib wa PDI, n'abandi.Ntabwo rero MDR n'abayobozi bayo bane ari bo baroshye u Rwanda mu rwobo nkuko wabyanditse.
 
Yee, biliho biraza! Ngaho rero ni muserure mwemere ko Rwanda yazize benshi,  kandi bose mujye mubagiliza ayo mabi, mwoye kutuvumira bamwe mukingiye abandi ikibababa. Nuliya Habyarimana kandi koko yali abakuliye, aliko urebe watangiye utubwira ko ntabwo yali agishyiraho abaminista ba gouvernement depuis 1992 (No 2 Yanyu); ubwo yali asigaranye ishongoro (influence) like. Icyokora kuko yali jenerali, yali agifite ijambo mu ngabo. Dukeka ko yagerageje kuzisaba guhomahoma ibyashwanyuzwaga, none bamurashe kaba karabaye, nk'aho ikivu cyaba gisandaje urukuta rukigomeye! Ese mwibuka ubwunvikane buke bwaje hagati ya F. Gatabazi na F. Nzamurambaho aho RPF yabakinnye yica umwe ikamugereka kuli Habyarimana ngo imushegeshe!
Haliya ugira uti "Ntabwo rero MDR n'abayobozi bayo bane ari bo baroshye u Rwanda mu rwobo nkuko wabyanditse", wiyibagije cya kizere kinini twali twashyize muli MDR (ibi twabyemeranijweho) tuli abanyarwanda benshi bayishyigikiye. Iyo rero aba bayobozi ba MDR badatana ngo bagane ziliya nzira zihushanyije kandi zigayitse, twali tubali inyuma n'ubutwali bwose, twashoboraga gusenya iyo mitego, Rwanda ntigwe mu rwobo. Iyo responsabilite n'ubwo buhemu niba mubihakana, byaba bivuga ko ntakamaro k'abayoboke, ko n'amashyaka yanyu niyo twayashyigikira ntacyo tuzageraho! 
 
4. Point no 7 yanyu irunvikana, ntacyo nyivugaho kindi.
 
5. Kuli point 8 yanyu muti ".Uzi ko FPR mu byo tuyirega harimo gutegekera muri systeme bicephal ya doublure: le gouvernement formel et le gouvernement informel/the underground system ari nayo iba itegeka igihugu mu by'ukuri. Na Habyarimana na MRND ye ni ko bakoraga: hari l'informel yari igizwe n'abanyakazu bicaga bagakiza; reba nawe kugirango uvuge inyuguti imwe Z itangira izina ruy'umuntu abantu bose bamenye uwo muntun uwo ari we ... Ibi byonyine byakubera indication y'aho nepotisme ya Habyarimana na MRND ye yari igeze u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda."
 
Natwe ibi bya double system turabyemera. Aliko se abanyarwanda muli rusange nta ruhare tubifitemo? Ni nayo mhanvu dutinyuka tuti wagira ngo abanyarwanda tuli  ibyimanye "Semuhanuka-Nyirarunyonga-Kamegeri-Ngunda", ibi bigatuma n'amalira dusuka ngo y'ibyago byatugwiliye ntawayashira amakenga, yibaza niba aba avuye ku mutima, atali imicezo ya guhendana, abantu bikulikiliye inyungu zabo bwite. None se kuli no 2 yanyu ko wavuze ko Habyarimana atali agishyiraho abaminista, kandi ko tuzi ko ministere y'ishyaka habaga higanjemo abayoboke bilyo shyaka, urunva Habyarimana yarashyize iliya double system ate muli gouvernement yanyu ya coalition depuis 1992?
 
6. Kuli point No 9 muti: "MRND ntabwo yari yarasezerewe muri Juillet nkuko wabyanditse. Oya. Kugeza FPR ifata ubutegetsi ari uko itsinze intambara muri Juillet 1994, MRND yari iriho nk'ishyaka rya politiki mu ruhando rw'amashyaka menshi yandi yari mu gihugu nka CDR, PL, PSD, MDR, PDC, PDI, PSR. Ni ba rero umuntu yibajije impamvu leta ya FPR yakoresheje inama y'abaminisitiri n'inteko ishinga amategeko mu guca MDR mu 2003(bannissement) ariko ntibikore kuri MRND na CDR,  yo theoriquement akaba ari amashyaka acyemewe mu Rwanda, wowe ntiwabyuririraho ngo uvuge ko MRND ari akana k'intama nkuko nabonye usa n'ubyandika."
 
Aho murakora ikosa "contre le raisonnement cartesien" nkuko twabiberetse muli point yacu ya 1, reba hejuru. Ntitwira rero tugira icyo tuvuga kindi, gusa twaberetse ko MRND bayikoresha mu buliganya bwo gushaka gusebya MRNDD bitwaje ibya MRND parti unique nawe nanjye twali tulimo, kubera itegeko, no kuvunira umuheto abali mu Rwanda batayobotse RPF.
 
7. Kuli point No10 muti :"Kugirango isangira ry'ubutegetsi ribe genuine, ribe nta buryarya n'ubuhendanyi burimo, ni ugukuraho iriya bicephalisme, iriya systeme ya doublure yaranze ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana ikaba inaranga ubutegetsi bwa Kagame. Niba uri minisitiri wa minisiteri runaka ni wowe minisitiri w'iyo minisiteri nta wundi ugomba kuza kugukoreramo, ukabishobora cyangwa bikakunanira ariko ari wowe uri in charge/en charge. Ni ukujya muri leta imwe muri guverinoma imwe(abahutu, abatutsi, abatwa, imvange z'abo bose, abakiga, abanyanduga, abega, abanyiginya, ...) ntawe ugaragiye undi, ntawe uherekeje undi, ntawaje kuvumba iwabo."
 
Aha niba noneho mwiyemeje kuzabidukorera, ni mubanze munemere uruhare rubi mwagize mu gihe cy'amashaka menshi kuko mwali mufite ubwo burenganzira: rwose minisiteri y'ishyaka yabaga igengwa n'abo mw'ishyaka, nkuko ubu RPF byayinaniye kandi yali ifite ubwisanzure bwose, uretse ko yo itali ifite abaturage benshi bayikunda. Ni muve mu kinyoma cya polotiki, muvugishe ukuli wenda byaba byagarura ikizere tukongera tukabishora inyuma!   
 
8. Hali kandi posting mwasobanuyemo ko mutigeze muba  Minisitiri washyizweho na Habyarimana Yuvenali, cyangwa se Kagame: "Iby'uko yakoraga mw'ikote rye agakura agapapuro mu mufuka we agatangaza amazina y'abaminitiri yabaga yagabiye byarangiranye na 1991 kuko kuva 1992 hagiyeho gouvernement de coaltion aho abaminisitiri bashyirwagaho n'amashyaka yabo.Habyarimana rero si we wangize minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga taliki ya 17/7/1993, ni ishyaka MDR ryangize minisitiri. Ryari rifite minisiteri enye:Primature, Minaffet, Mineduc, Mininfor....
Nyuma ya genocide mu 1994 nabwo ni uko, nongeye kuba minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga mbigizwe n'ishyaka MDR ryari rigifite ya myanya ine navuze haruguru (PRIMATURE, MINAFFET, MINEDUC, MINENFOR) rirongera rinshinga Minaffet. Si nari rero Minisitiri wa Kagame nkuko ubivuga, nari minisitiri washyizweho na MDR, ukorera leta y'u Rwanda. Nyuma FPR byose imaze kubizambya mbona ntaho twavuye ntaho twagiye, narasezeye...)." 
 
Ibi birashumangira ibyo twanditse aha hejuru muli point 7.

Mureke rwose bavandimwe tuganire mu cyubahiro, wenda tuzagera aho dukubitira ikinyoma inzega, kiveho!




Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:18:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [fondationbanyarwanda] FW: Réf.: *DHR* Inama nziza naha Gasana A. Ukuri kuratinda ariko ...ntigusiba!
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Muvandimwe munyarwanda Kota,
1.Wowe sinshobora kutagusubiza kuko ugira ikinyabupfura n'ubwubahane mu mpaka ujya n'abandi banyarwanda nkawe. Icyo abenshi bandika kuri izi mbuga barakibuze.
2.Igisubizo ku kibazo cyawe cya mbere ni uko kuva 1975 MRND parti unique parti-Etat yajyaho kugeza 1/1/1991 umunyarwanda wese yaba wowe yaba jye yaba uriya Habimana Bonaventure uvuga ndetse n'umwana ukiri mu nda yanyina bose twese twari muri MRND par obligation, wabishaka utabishaka. Ntabwo yari libre choix yacu. Libre choix imaze kuboneka nyuma ya 1/7/1991 amashyaka menshi amaze kuvuka MRND ibaye ishyaka nk'ayandi yose, navuye muri MRND kimwe n'abandi bose batari bashyigikiye amatwara yayo ya politiki njya muri MDR kuko amahame ya politiki yayo ari yo yari ajyanye n'ibitekerezo byanjye bya politiki. Nkwibutse kandi mubo uvuga bari barembeje  Habyarimana ngo yemere amashyaka menshi n'abanyarwanda barimo nka babandi 30 basinye inyandko mu 1990 basaba ko u Rwanda ruva muri politiki y'ishyaka rimwe rukumbi MRND rukajya mu politiki ishingiye ku mashyaka menshi buri munyarwanda akaba ari we wihitiramo ishyaka ajyamo aho kumushyira mw''ishyaka runaka ku ngufu za Leta nkuko byari bimeze ku ngoma ya MRND(nk'uko binameze ubu ku ngoma ya FPR kuko hari abantu bayirimo ku ngufu za leta).
3.Umuhutukazi Minisitiri w'Intebe Agata Uwilingiyimana yishwe n'abaex-FAR b'abahezangini extremistes hutu bari mu bakoze itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi n'itsembatsemba ry'abahutu batavugaga rumwe na perezida Habyarimana na MRND ye, nka Ministre Rucogoza, Ministre Nzamurambaho. Chief Justice Kavaruganda, n'abandi bahutu benshi bari muri MDR. PSD, PL, PDC, PDI batavugaga rumwe muri politiki na MRND/CDR/HUTU POWER.
4.Umututsi Karamira, guhisha no guhishira ubututsi bwe byamuhenuriye mu nterhamwe za MRND, impuzamugambi za CDR na Hutu Power ubwe yashinze, nuko bakora itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi n'itsembatsemba ry'abahutu moderes.
5.Ntiwavuga ngo biriya byose umuntu yabimenye ku wuhe munsi mu kuhe kwezi uwuhe mwaka kuko ari ibintu byagendaga byishushanya uko iminsi n'amezi n'iyo myaka byagenda bihana ibihe. Notre pays a vecu tres intensement muri biriya bihe kuko ibi byose byabaye mu gihe cy'imyaka itatu n'amezi gusa. Itageze no kuri ine; ni ukuvuga kuva 1/1/1990 kugeza 6/4/1994.
6.Abayobozi ba MDR:Twagiramungu, Nsengiyaremye, Karamira  na Murego ntabwo ari bo bari des acteurs politiques bonyine muri politiki nyarwanda yo muri kiriya gihe. Ils n'etaient meme pas les plus importants. Hari uwari umaze imyaka 20 ari perezida wa Repubulika y'u Rwanda ari we Habyarimana na MRND ye wari ushyigikiwe n'igihugu cy'u Bufaransa, hari Kagame na FPR ye yari ishyigikiwe na perezida Museveni n'igihugu cye cya Uganda n'abanyamerika n'abongereza, hari n'abandi nka Gatabazi na Nzamurambaho ba  PSD, Mugenzi na Ntamabyariro ba  PL, Nayinzira wa PDC, Bumaya Andre Habib wa PDI, n'abandi.Ntabwo rero MDR n'abayobozi bayo bane ari bo baroshye u Rwanda mu rwobo nkuko wabyanditse.
7.Iby'isangira ry'ubutegetsi ku ngoma ya Habyarimana na MRND ye, bisa n'ibya Kagame na FPR ye kuko nawe afite mu butegetsi bwe amoko yose n'uturere twose ariko mu buryo bwo guhuma amaso abanyarwnda n'amahanga nkuko Habyarimana nawe yabikoraga asunukirizaho, mbese nko kubavumbyaho, abatutsi nka Cyubahiro na Ntashamaje Antoine bombi bishwe n'interahamwe za MRND muri jenoside mu 1994.
8.Uzi ko FPR mu byo tuyirega harimo gutegekera muri systeme bicephal ya doublure: le gouvernement formel et le gouvernement informel/the underground system ari nayo iba itegeka igihugu mu by'ukuri. Na Habyarimana na MRND ye ni ko bakoraga: hari l'informel yari igizwe n'abanyakazu bicaga bagakiza; reba nawe kugirango uvuge inyuguti imwe Z itangira izina ruy'umuntu abantu bose bamenye uwo muntun uwo ari we kandi hari miliyoni z'abanyarwanda bafite bose amazina atangirwa n'iyo nyuguti ya Z. Ibi byonyine byakubera indication y'aho nepotisme ya Habyarimana na MRND ye yari igeze u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda.
9.MRND ntabwo yari yarasezerewe muri Juillet nkuko wabyanditse. Oya. Kugeza FPR ifata ubutegetsi ari uko itsinze intambara muri Juillet 1994, MRND yari iriho nk'ishyaka rya politiki mu ruhando rw'amashyaka menshi yandi yari mu gihugu nka CDR, PL, PSD, MDR, PDC, PDI, PSR. Ni ba rero umuntu yibajije impamvu leta ya FPR yakoresheje inama y'abaminisitiri n'inteko ishinga amategeko mu guca MDR mu 2003(bannissement) ariko ntibikore kuri MRND na CDR,  yo theoriquement akaba ari amashyaka acyemewe mu Rwanda, wowe ntiwabyuririraho ngo uvuge ko MRND ari akana k'intama nkuko nabonye usa n'ubyandika.
10.Wambajije uko twe twabigenza kugirango habe genuine power sharing mu butegetsi bw'u Rwanda. Ibyo twarabisonbanuye mu mahamare-remezo ya PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI twatangaje ku ya 10/3/2013. Kugirango isangira ry'ubutegetsi ribe genuine, ribe nta buryarya n'ubuhendanyi burimo, ni ugukuraho iriya bicephalisme, iriya systeme ya doublure yaranze ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana ikaba inaranga ubutegetsi bwa Kagame. Niba uri minisitiri wa minisiteri runaka ni wowe minisitiri w'iyo minisiteri nta wundi ugomba kuza kugukoreramo, ukabishobora cyangwa bikakunanira ariko ari wowe uri in charge/en charge.Ni ukujya muri leta imwe muri guverinoma imwe(abahutu, abatutsi, abatwa, imvange z'abo bose, abakiga, abanyanduga, abega, abanyiginya, ...) ntawe ugaragiye undi, ntawe uherekeje undi, ntawaje kuvumba iwabo. Twanavuze kuri pages 25-26 ingingo ya 17 ko mw'ikubitiro(mu ntangiriro) hajyaho icyo twise LETA YO KIUGANGAHURA IGIHUGU ikabanza igashyira igihugu mu buryo ikagihumuriza ikakivura ibikomere gifite ikanategurira inzira iboneye ya demokarasi uguhinwa kw'amashyaka ya politiki yose abishaka mu matora adafifitse.Uzasome ariya mapages kuri kiriya gitekerezo twatanze umbwire icyo ubitekerezaho, mbaye ngushimiye. (Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi w'ishyaka Moderate Rwanda Party-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
 
 

2015-02-24 10:24 GMT-05:00 kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>:

S.V.P., nguyu umwandiko twakosoyemo udukosa two mu nyuguti.

 

Nyabuna bavandimwe, ni mureke Dr A. Gasana akomeze atuganilire, yisanzure mu nvugo. Niba yarakoreye MRND hanyuma MDR akarangiliza kuli RPF, ni amahoro kuko ali nabyo akesha ubunaralibonye (yabiboneye hafi ntabwo ali nka za ntarutsi babirega zitaranakandagiraga i Kigali), butuma agira byinshi atwigisha, aduhishulira cyangwa se aduhamiliza. Ahubwo iyo biba byashobokaga twali no kumusaba kutwegerera Oncle Sam akamusobanulira ko adukamira mu kitoze ashingiye ku manyanganya aba RANU batugerekaho!

Twe ahubwo mucyo twunve tunasesengura mu bworoherane, aho tudasobanukiwe tubaze. Reka ndetse twe tubonereho maze dusabe bwana Dr A. Gasana udusabanuro dutatu:
 
1. Bwana Dr A. Gasana mwahamije, kandi kuva kera, ko mwabonye umwanya muri MRND parti-etat mubikesha uwari Muvuma Bonaventure Habyarimana wanabafashije kuva mu Ruhengeri rwa Z.  Akabazo ni aka: Bwana Dr A. Gasana, mugeze i Kigali mwasezeye kuli Muvuma Habyarimana wayoboraga iyo MRND yali igishyitsi cy'irondakoko n'irondakarere cyangwa se mwakomeje kubana muli iyo MRND kugeza 1juli 1994 ivuyeho na Muvuma Habimana hakavuka MRNDD, Habyalimana bamurembeje ngo yemere amashyaka menshi? 
 
2. Dr A. Gasana, ukuli koko hali abo kudashimisha, bitewe n'uruhande barengera urwo ari rwo aho kuba neutres devant l'histoire de leur pays, kandi bararonse imhano zibibemerera. Nibyo byagonze prof Rwagasana ejobundi yibeshye ko mumushyigikiye mu butore yayobotse; ni nacyo cyatumye haba inzirakarengane zirenganyilizwa mu nkiko igihe abicanyi bamwe bakingiwe ikibaba. Mwavuze kandi ko MDR yakundwaga n'abanyarwanda benshi cyane (ntabwo ali kubagira hose kuko na MRND yali ifite representation hose). Ni byo rwose, niba unyemereye kugorora invugo wakoresheje. Munasobanura ko iyo MDR yashenywe na  "RPF yakuye ku ngoma, isenywa na MRND/Habyarimana banayiciye muli 1973". Aya mashyaka yombi rero yarayibaze ayigabana imhande, ngo kubera kuyitinya. FPR itwara umukwe wa Kayibanda (Twagiramungu), umuhutukazi 1st minista A. Uwilingiyimana n'abandi naho MRND itwara umututsi F. Karamira (imwirura ikanamuha marche muli electrogaz), D. Nsenygimana n'abandi  (ibi na Guichaoua yarabyanditse). Ibiteye agahinda nuko twese twamenye ukuntu umuhutukazi A. Uwilingiyimana yahise akulikizwa Habyarimana naho umututsi F. Karamira akaraswa na RPF. Udusobanuro tubasaba rero ni utu: 
a) Ibi by'ibagwa n'igabana imhande za MDR, mwebwe Dr A. Gasana, mwabibonye cyangwa se mwabimenye by'invaho lyali (ukwezi, umwaka)? 
b) None se buliya mwaba mutahura ko abali bagize "comite directeur na secretariat" ya MDR bahemukiye abali biyemeje kuzabicaza mu Rugwiro babahundagazaho amajwi, bakabaroha mu rwobo nyarwo (rutali rumwe rwa Habyarimana) babitewe n'ubushishozi buke n'inda nini? Bulya umutegetsi mwiza kandi ushoboye ntabwo ali ubyagira gusa, ahubwo ni ureba kure, byaba ngombwa akigomwa ikintu n'inzika agamije ikirenze icyo afite, ni naha abenshi babona Kagame asa n'uruta opposition z'ubu! 
 
3. Dr A. Gasana, muhamya ko Abiru b'ingoma y'i Bushiru batakomokaga  cyangwa se ntibakomoke mu Bushiru gusa, hari n'abakomoka mu Gisaka, mu Kinyaga, mu Bugoyi, mu Murera, ( i Butare, i Kigali), n'ahandi. Natwe nibyo twemera. 
Akabazo rero ni aka: 
Niba se mwemera ko Habyarimana yafatanyaga ubuyobozi hamwe n'abakomoka mu mapregitura 11 z'Urwanda, murongera mugasobanura mute ko yikubiraga ibyiza by'igihugu wenyine n'abashiru be?
Niba se mumuziza ko yahaga imyanya abo azi cyangwa se abamutura (amafukire, inkangara,  abayoboke, etc.) nkuko tubibonana na RPF nyamara yazanye intambara yayogoje Urwanda ngo igamije kubyirukana, mwe ni tubahundagazaho amajwi tukabimika muzatanga imyanya mute kugira ngo twese (Hutu, Tutsi, Twa, Kiga, Nduga, Gisaka etc.) twishime maze ibyagushije za MDR parmehutu, za MRND, bikazagusha za RPF bisezererwe nk'ifuni iheze? 
 
Bwana Dr A. Gasana, ntimuduhe udusobanuro mukoresheje ibigambo bya politiki n'amaculi, mutubwire rwose facts zitomoye, zifite logique cartesienne nyayo. Maze kandi ntimugatangazwe ko RPF yashyizeho itegeko lisenya MDR muli 2003 itarabikoreye MRND: nuko bitali ngombwa kuko nyuma yo kuvanaho Habyarimana RPF yahise ikora uko ishoboye ngo iroge MRND jenosayidi kandi MRND yali yarasezerewe muli juli 1991. Ni aka cya Kirura gishaka kulya ka kana k'intama!  Akali kera umwanzuro ushobora kuzaba ko ibyago bikomeye Urwanda rwogamo ali uko abanyarwanda twarohamiye mu nzika, inzangano n'inzigo,  none na Loni yazanyemo akandi gasima (ciment) aliko ziliya za jenosides wowe na Rutayisire musobanulira Rubanda. 
Tubaye dushimiye. 

PS. Twisekere: Ngo Habyarimana yagize ati "iki gihugu aho kugisigira MDR nakwemera nkagisigira Inkotanyi (Dr A. Gasana)".  Tekereza ko na Guichaoua yanditse ngo abanyabutare bavuze (multipartisme 1991-1194) bati " plutot RPF que les bakiga de chez Habyarimana". Nyamara umengo abanyarwanda sinzi ayo balira ayo aliyo, kandi no guhuza opposition bishobora kutazoroha!


Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:18:21 -0500
Subject: Re: Réf.: *DHR* Inama nziza naha Gasana A. Ukuri kuratinda ariko ...ntigusiba!
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Basomyi banditsi,
Ibyo tugomba kwirinda ntabwo ari "gutukana, kubeshya no kubeshyera, guharabika no kunnyega abandi nkaho nta gaciro bagira kabone niyo baba batakiri kuri iyi si" gusa, tugomba no kwirinda gucecekesha abandi hakoreshejwe ibintu bya intimidation, bullying, n'ibindi nka biriya uwiyita Jean Gatera akora kuko binyuranye n'umuco wa demokarasi twitwa ko turimo guharanira ngo tuwutware iwacu i Rwanda. Niba Kagame uko acecekesha abantu mu Rwanda ari nako Jean Gatera ashaka gucecekesha abantu bamwe hanze ubwo se mu mitekerereze ye no mu migirire ye ataniyehe na Kagame? Ntaho. Ni bamwe!
Ari Jean Gatera ari n'abandi bameze nkawe batukana nk'abashumba, twe ntidushobora kubasubiza kuko atariko twarezwe kandi n'ishyaka ryacu PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI mu mahame ya politiki yaryo page 24 ingingo ya 6  rikaba ritubuza gutukana aho rigira riti:   "Kujya impaka za politiki mu kinyabupfura abantu batagombye gutukana no gusebanya kuko gutukana no gusebanya ari ikimenyetso cy'intege nke n'ubuswa bukabije muri politiki; "
(Gasana Anastase, perezida w'ishyaka PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).

2015-02-20 16:22 GMT-05:00 Ignace Rudahunga rudahi20@hotmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
 

Uko Gasana afite uburenganzira bwo gutanga ibitekerezo ni nako na Gatera afite uburenganzira bwo kumugira inama, ni nako nawe ufite uburenganzira bwo kubaza ibyo ubajije. Twese dufite uburenganzira bwo kuvuga ibyo dutekereza gusa tukirinda ibyo amategeko atemera nko gutukana, kubeshya no kubeshyera, guharabika no kunnyega abandi nkaho nta gaciro bagira kabone niyo baba batakiri kuri iyi si.


To: democracy_human_rights@yahoogroupes.fr
From: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:49:02 +0000
Subject: Réf.: *DHR* Inama nziza naha Gasana A. Ukuri kuratinda ariko ...ntigusiba!


 


Banyarubuga,

Umugabo Anastase Gasana akiza ku rubuga, twaramwanjamye, tumuhata ibibazo bishingiye kuri parcours politique. Ibisobanuro yaduhaye byaratunyuze cyangwa ntibyatunyuze ariko yarabitanze. Aho ibintu bigeze rero, nitube abagabo dusubize ingingo ku ngingo. Murumva bihwitse ko umuntu atanga igitekerezo cye, ukamusubiza Ngo wowe ceceka witwaye nabi mu bihe byashize ?
Kutabona ibintu kimwe ni ibisanzwe. Gushaka gucecekesha abandi witwaje carrière politique ni ibyo kwamaganwa.
Nyumvira nk'uyu wiyita Gatera ngo aramugira inama yo guceceka kandi twaraje ku rubuga kungurana ibitekerezo n'abandi.

Week-end nziza kuri mwese.

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Le ven. 20 févr. 2015 18:45 HNEC, Jean Gatera jeangatera@yahoo.be [Democracy_Human_Rights] a écrit :

>Monsieur Gasana Anastase,
>Je pense trèsfranchement que tu es seul contre tous. Si tu ne le vois pas de cet angle, tues aveugle ou malade.Tu es assez âgé, monsieur Gasana, disons relativement avancé enâge.Tu devrais te laisser habiter par la sagesse.Beaucoupd'intervenants sur DHR et ailleurs ont relevé avec précisions la façon dont tuas servi le MRND, le MDR, le FPR. C'est terrible. Oui, il s'agit de toncaractère, mais si la société  commence à te huer, tu dois tirer les conséquences. Sinon,tu seras franchement ridicule. Monsieur Jean Mbanda t'a prodigué debons conseils en tant que quelqu'un qui te connait très bien. Mais apparemmenttu n'a rien saisi.  A voir la façon dont monsieur Munanira Karakevient de te savonner et de te lessiver, tu devrais prendre le profil bas. Plutôtte taire. Monsieur Munanira a résumé et c'est la réalité, tout ce que lesautres ont dit en des termes très forts bien sûr : « Gasanayasingizaga FPR itaramwubikira
imbehe.Ni igisambo kiba kirekereje gishaka aho byeze. Mulibukauko cyinginze Z ngo kinjire mu mbere ya MRND kilirwa gisebya yaragikamiye.Nicyo cyaremye umutwe w'interahamwe kilirwa gishyira ku ntugu z'abandi nka ba Matayona Karemera n'abandi.
>
>Nicyocyakoze itiku hamwe na mwene se Rwigema P. Celestin (bapfana inda nini gusa)basenya MDR bagira ngo bashimishe P.Kagame.Nonenta soni kirirwa gisingiza Kayibanda cyarasenye ishyaka rye (MDR). KugiraDoctorat ntibibuza usanzwe ali imbwa cg injiji kuba yo. ……. » « Gasanauzabanze usabe imbabazi impunzi wicishije inzara ukili umumotsi wa FPR. Waziseaba NaZi karahava ndetse na vocabulaire y'abacengezi, aba revisionistes,abapfobyi....byose ni wowe waziculiye FPR ntabyo yali izi. Ese ko wita abandimediocres wowe ubona hali mediocrite isumba kwirirwa uli mu ngutiya za mukaMakeli ukora itiku ryo hejuru ngo ahere mu munyururu ukomeze usarure ahoutabibye. Ese inkwano za Makeli warazimusubuje ra?
>
>Icyongusabye ni ukurekeraho kwirwa utuka cg usebya abategetsi  b'u Rwanda habaKayibanda, Habyarimana ndetse na Kagame....ngo ni mediocres. Wowe iyo turebyeibigwi byawe dusanga uli pire kubarusha... » Dans ce que dit monsieur Munanira il ya des vérités que tu ne peux pas  contredire. En tout cas tu n'es pas bienoutillé pour te défendre. Même si tu fais des efforts pour ta défense, ça tombedans l'eau. Tu es déjà connu et disqualifié. Monsieur Gasana, jepense que tu devrais filer à l'anglaise, ne plus t'exposer sur ces foras cartu es la risée de tout le monde.
>La voix du peuple c'est la voix de……. Tu es seulcontre tous. Certaines personnes commencent à estimerque tu es un homme d'un esprit retors et que tu te perds dans une logorrhéefaisandée pour équilibrer ton cerveau (umuti) Aurevoir.        
>  De : "Dieudonné NGOGA diditedy@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
> À : "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; "Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
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> Envoyé le : Vendredi 20 février 2015 15h48
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>

>| Erega ngo " Burya abo umwami yahaye amata ni bo bamwimye amatwi " ! Bose bariye MRND bayihaze nibwo barimo bayisebya !
>
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>| De:"Mbaga Tuzinde tuzindembaga@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
>Date:Ven j Fév PM à 14:37
>Objet:Re: *DHR* Re: FW: Ukuri kuratinda ariko ...ntigusiba!
>
>  
>
> Mumubwire yo gateterwa, aho yirirwa yisararanga kuri izi mbuga kandi abamurusha ubugwari ari mbarwa.... Njye sinanzi amabi ye, nayamenyeye aha!  Mbaga Tuzinde
>
> Le Vendredi 20 février 2015 13h21, "Munanira Karake karake_munanira@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :
>
>
>   Mwaramutse bwana Gasana na Rwembe n'abandi musoma izi postings.Rwagasana turemeranya iyo avuga ko Gasana yasingizaga FPR itaramwubikira imbehe. Ni igisambo kiba kirekereje gishaka aho byeze. Mulibuka uko cyinginze Z ngo kinjire mu mbere ya MRND kilirwa gisebya yaragikamiye. Nicyo cyaremye umutwe w'interahamwe kilirwa gishyira ku ntugu z'abandi nka ba Matayo na Karemera n'abandi.
>Nicyo cyakoze itiku hamwe na mwene se Rwigema P. Celestin (bapfana inda nini gusa) basenya MDR bagira ngo bashimishe P.Kagame.None nta soni kirirwa gisingiza Kayibanda cyarasenye ishyaka rye (MDR). Kugira Doctorat nibibuza usanzwe ali imbwa cg injiji kuba yo. Aha nemeranya na P.Kagame ubita ibigarasha, injiji cg excrements...burya kubera azi ububwa bwabo aba yarabarungurutse mu bwonko.
>Gasana uzabanze usabe imbabazi impunzi wicishije inzara ukili umumotsi wa FPR. Wazise aba NaZi karahava ndetse na vocabulaire y'abacengezi, aba revisionistes, abapfobyi....byose ni wowe waziculiye FPR ntabyo yali izi. Ese ko wita abandi mediocres wowe ubona hali mediocrite isumba kwirirwa uli mu ngutiya za muka Makeli ukora itiku ryo hejuru ngo ahere mu munyururu ukomeze usarure aho utabibye. Ese inkwano za Makeli warazimusubuje ra?
>Icyo ngusabye ni ukurekeraho kwirwa utuka cg usebya abategetsi  b'u Rwanda haba Kayibanda, Habyarimana ndetse na Kagame....ngo ni mediocres. Wowe iyo turebye ibigwi byawe dusanga uli pire kubarusha...abo usebya nta ngutiya bigeze bihishamo, nta guhakwa bigeze bagira ahubwo bose baraguhatse....Ikindi kandi Kayibanda na Habyarimana barigendeye...mubahe iruhuko ryiza tunabasabira ku Imana.Dukeneye abategetsi batigeze bagirwa ibigarasha kandi batahemukiye abanyarwanda. Abo tubategereje mu ba rescapes hutus et tutsi bazishyira hamwe bagahamba ishoka y'inzika n'ubwicanyi. Barahali barabyiruka kandi bazarutegeka naho ba Gasana bazapfa badategetse u Rwanda kuko ali ibigwari n'abanyamatiku gusa...
>Abo uteze kuzategeka ntabo ndimo kandi imvejuru zawe nizitera igihugu njye nzagisohokamo.
>
> On Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:38 AM, "Anastase Gasana gasana31@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:
>
>
>   Muvandimwe munyarwanda Kota,Biriya Prof Rwagasana yabivugaga kuko nari mvugishije ukuri ku mabi yakozwe na leta ya Habyarimana na MRND ye. Yumva arabishimye. Noneho muri posting ikurikiyeho mvuze n'amabi yakozwe kandi na n'ubu agikorwa na Kagame na FPR ye nkanashimangira ko mu 1994 IKIBI cyari gihari cyasimbuwe n'IKINDI KIBI, nibwo prof Rwagasana yahise ahindura imvugo nka kuriya nawe wabyiboneye. Kuki? Kubera ko we buriya ari mu bagize igikuta cy'ibitekerezo bya politiki byubakiye ku mateka ya politiki ya FPR Inkotanyi ziri ku butegetsi muri iki gihe. Bitaba ibyo ukongeraho ko ubwo ari no mu Rwanda yitinyira ko bamugira nka Rwigara Assinapol cyangwa Kagwa Rwisekera(aha ntawe utamwumva kereka utava amaraso kandi ntawe nzi ubaho!).(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi wa PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
>2015-02-18 9:31 GMT-05:00 kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>:
>
>Huuu, none ko Dr Rwagasana ahise akata ikorosi lya 180° mu kiganiro agirana na  Dr A. Gasana yali amaze gushima ko atagira amarangamutima biragenda bite? Mama se Dr A. Gasana aramusubiza cyangwa aramwihorera?  Ese ntabwo Prof Rwagasana azi ko Dr A. Gasana afatanyije na bwana Tubeho-twese mu guharanira ko inzirakarengane zose (abavictimes bose: Hutu, Tutsi, Twa, aba Kibeho, aba mapping, etc.) bibukwa ndetse n'ababahohoteye bagashyikilizwa inkiko? Icyokora ubwo prof  Rwagasana asohoye ya ntwaro kilimbuzi ya genocide, birakaze; Dr A. Gasana nadasaba imbabazi ngo asingize RPF ashobora kuliburutore! Ngaho da! Reka twicecekere hatagira n'adutarukira cyangwa se tukagilizwa kwivanga kandi inyama rusange itazira icyuma.Puisse la noblesse du metier de professeurs nous eloigner dublanchiment de nauseabonds crimes  par recoursaux genocides!
>
>Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:47:31 +0000
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>Subject: Re: Ukuri kuratinda ariko ...ntigusiba!
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>Bwana Gasana merci encore pour vos geniales " reflexions" ! Uragereranya FPR na MRND-CDR ! Are you serious ?? Ese  FPR yakubereye mbi kuva wava ku mwanya wa amabassadeur cyanga mbere? Ko kugeza uva kuri uwo mwanya wayisingizaga se kurusha n'abayiremye  harya waje guyanga uruhenu ute niba atari amaco y'inda ? Ugeze aho ushyira mu kebo kamwe aba jenosideri n'abahagaritse jenoside ? "Abasangizi" ! "Tura niwanga tugabane" !? Imvugo z'abantu batekerereza mu nda !Ngaho bonne chance et surtout bon appetit.
>rwagasana
> Rwagasana Gerard
>P.O. Box 4301 Kigali - RwandaMob: 250-788460976 
>Home: 250 255104911
>mailto: gerwaga@yahoo.com   
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>The Secret: Thoughts become Things  
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> On Tuesday, 17 February 2015, 0:30, Anastase Gasana <gasana31@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Urakoze nawe prof. Rwagasana.Nanditse biriya nsubiza ibibazo nabajijwe n'umusomyi akaba n'umwanditse uzwi kuri uru uru rubuga ari we Lyarahoze Samuel. Abiru b'ingoma y'i Bushiru bahise babisamira hejuru n'uwabyandikiwe nta cyo arabivugaho maze barasizora kuko baba badashaka ko amafuti n'amabi regime ya Habyarimana yakoze avugwa ngo abantu bayamenye. Nyamara iyo tuvuze amafuti n'amabi ya leta ya Kagame babyakiriza amaboko yombi. Ariko wagera kuri regime ya Habyarimana na MRND ye bagahaguruka. Biragaragara ko ntaho bataniye n'abo muri FPR bitwa ngo bararwanya. Abo muri FPR bavuga ko ubutegetsi bw'ingoma ya Cyami bwari bwiza ko bwari ntamakemwa ko ibibazo byatangiye muri 1959 bizanywe na ba Kayibanda(kandi atari byo!). Aba baexMRND nabo bakavuga ko ku ngoma ya shebuja wabo Habyarimana ibintu byari byiza ko ibibazo byazanywe na FPR n'amashyaka ataravugaga rumwe na Habyarimana na MRND ye (kandi atari byo!). Jyewe rero singendera ku matwara ya politiki
y'umurongo wa MRND, sinagendera ku matwara ya politiki y'umurongo wa FPR,  ari nayo mpamvu iyo nkora critiques kuri iriya mirongo ya politiki yombi ntabogama. Mu Kinyarwanda baca umugani ngo "Ukoma uruskyo akoma n'ingasire". Ibyo bisaba kuvuga no kuvugisha ukuri. Ariko uko kuri hari ababa batagushaka, baba abo mu gikuta cy'ibitekerezo bya poltiki byubakiye ku murongo wa politiki wa MRND/CDR, baba n'abo mu gikuta cy'ibitekerezo bya politiki byubakiye ku murongo wa FPR.Abantu nkanjye rero n'abandi benshi batabarizwa muri biriya bikuta byombi, dufite natwe uwacu murongo wa politiki, umurongo wo hagati nakwita inkingi ya mwikorezi yubakiye ku mahame y'ubworoherane, ubwumvikane, kuvuga no kuvugisha ukuri, no gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza b'igihugu cyabo ntawe ukumiriwe, ntawe ugaragiye undi, ntawe uherekeje undi, ntawaje kuvumba iwabo.Iki ni igikuta cya gatatu cy'ibitekerezo bya politiki jye mperereyemo, bityo bikaba byumvikana ko ntashobora kuvuga
rumwe na biriya bikuta bindi bibiri, kimwe cyubakiye ku mateka ya politiki ya MRND/CDR n'ikindi cyubakiye ku mateka ya politiki ya FPR. Les defenseurs du regime Habyarimana rero nababwira iki, les defenseurs du regime Kagame namwe ni uko; ariko mwese mumenye ko burya atari buno. Ntabwo tuzongera kwemera ko ikibi gisimbura ikindi kibi nkuko byagendekeye u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda mu 1994. (Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi w'ishyaka Moderate Rwanda Party-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
>2015-02-16 15:54 GMT-05:00 rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com>:
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>Urakoze cyane Bwana Anastase kudushyirira ahagaragara ukuri kw'amateka nta marangamutima.
>rwagasana Rwagasana Gerard
>P.O. Box 4301 Kigali - RwandaMob: 250-788460976 
>Home: 250 255104911
>mailto: gerwaga@yahoo.com   
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>The Secret: Thoughts become Things  
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> On Monday, 16 February 2015, 1:26, Anastase Gasana <gasana31@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Muvandimwe munyarwanda Lyarahoze,Ndagusabye ntukagenze nk'abatarize kandi warize ukaminuza:1. Icya mbere uzi ko nabaye Minisitiri w'Ububanyi n'Amahanga taliki ya 17/7/1993 amasezerano ya Arusha yararangije  kuba negocies ariko ukabyirengagiza nkana. Uzi ko ntigeze njya Arusha mu mishyikirano habe na rimwe kuko igihe yabaga kuva mu 1992 kugeza arangiye jye nari Senior Education Adviser wa Minisitiri w'Uburezi Agatha Uwiringiyimana. Sinigeze njya muri delegation ya Minaffet Ngurizira Boniface:delegation yabaga ayoboye yarimo abahagarariye amashyaka MRND, MDR, PSD, PL, PDC. Abo bose hafi ya bose barahari uretse Nayinzira Nepomuscene uherutse gutabaruka. Uzababaze bazakubwira ko ntigeze njyana nabo Arusha.Ministre Ngurinzira wakakubwiye by'imvaho ibyariya masezerano Interahmwe za MRND n'impuzamugambi za CDR zaramwishe mu kwa kane 1994. Ariko hari abari kumwe nawe from day one kugeza negotiations zirangiye nabo babikubwira imvaho. Reka rero guhora umpata
kugusobanurira ibyo ntahagazeho.2. Icya kabiri uzi neza ko inama nari ndimo ku ya 06/04/1994 nka Minisitiri w'Ububanyi n'amahanga  ntabwo yari amasezerano ya Arusha  kuko yo yasinywe ku ya 3/8/1993 hariya Arusha nyine. Inama ya le 6/4/1994 yari inama y'abakuru b'ibihugu bo mu karere k'ibiyaga bigari yabereye I Dar-es-Salaam(ntabwo ari Arusha nkuko ubivuga) ikaba yari ifite ku murongo w'ibyigwa ikibazo cy'u Burundi ariko mu bwihisho hari gahunda yo gushyira pression kuri perezida Habyarimana ngo arahize guverinoma y'inzibacyuho uko yateganywaga n'amasezerano ya Arusha( mise en application y'ayo masezerano).3. Icya gatatu uzi neza ko ariya masezerano y'amahoro ya Arusha Perezida Habyarimana yavugiye kuri radio Rwanda ayita "biriya bipapuro"/ ces chiffons de papier". Yishyize mu kagozi ubwe ayita "ibipapuro" yarangiza akajya kuyarahiriraho taliki ya 5/1/1994 kugirango ayabemo perezida wa repubulika wa transition y'imyaka ibiri yari iteganijwe n'ariya
masezerano ya Arusha. Yashoboraga kurahiza Minisitiri w'Intebe Twagiramungu Faustin n'abaminisitiri barangije kumvikanwaho bityo akaresponsabisa guverinoma yagomba guhurirwamo na bose(na FPR irimo yari inafite na minisiteri y'ubutegetsi bw'igihugu ifite securite interieure mu kazi kayo). Strategie ye yagomba kuba kubasuka muri guverinoma bose kandi vuba pour les responsabiliser et les voir a l'oeuvre n'abanyarwanda n'amahanga bagahita bababona a l'oeuvre en train de gouverner bikava mu bigambo gusa bikajya mu ntangamugabo. Amasezerano ya Arusha yari yamuhaye inda ya bukuru yo kuba perezida wayo kugeza arangiye. We rero aho gutanga inda ya bukuru nawe ngo ayihe abanyarwanda n'igihugu mu kwihutira gushyiraho iriya guverinoma de transition a base elargie( iri mo na FPR) anatangire ayobore inama z'abaminisitiri abamenyereze nk'umuntu wabaye minisitiri kuva 1965), ahubwo yahisemo gushyiramo ibihato akerereza nkana irahizwa ry'abaminisitiri yitwaza ngo
hari abatarumvikanwaho kandi yarashobora kurahiza Minisitiri w'Intebe n'abaminisitiri bumvikanweho, guverinoma igatangira igakora, umwe cyangwa babiri basigaye bakazarahizwa nyuma ariko GTBE ihari, entrain de fonctionner. AbaMRND n'abaCDR birirwaga basakuza ngo "nta mututsi wo kuba Minisitre de la justice". Gutyo. Ibyo biri mu byabujije perezida Habyarimana kurahiza GTBE. Hagati aho derriere le rideau, bariya uvuga bariya banyamerika uvuga n'abafaransa n'abandi yarimo avugana nabo iby'uko ashaka amnistie ku bwicanyi yakoze kuri perezida Kayibanda, abaminisitiri n'abandi bategetsi ba repubulika ya mbere yishe, akaba yaratinyaga ko umukwe wa Kayibanda ari we Twagiramungu Faustin yazamara kuba Minisitiri w'Intebe akaba ahaboneye power yo kumukurikirana no muri uko kumukurikirana akaba yakwifashisha amashyaka ya opposition MDR, PSD, PL, PDC, PSR, ndetse na FPR.Jye nka Minisitiri w'ububanyi n'amahanga w'icYo gihe wari ushinzwe ishyirwa mu bikorwa ry'ariya
masezerano y'amahoro ya Arusha, mbona ko iyi iri nayo mpamvu nyamukuru itaravugwaga ariko ari yo  yari imuri mu mutwe ntitume arahiza Minisitiri w'Intebe na Guverinoma ye(GTBE). Bariya banyamerika uvuga rero ujye umenya ko n'ibi  byose babizi neza.(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi wa PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
>2015-02-14 17:53 GMT-05:00 Lyarahoze Samuel <lyar66@yahoo.fr>:
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>Reka nibarize Gasana: Harya uracyavuga ko Juvénal Habyarimana ari we wanze gushyira mu bikorwa amasezerano y'Arusha? Mwarimu wanjye... ndagusaba ndakwinginze tinyuka uvuge UKURI k'uko byagenze Arusha umunsi Habyara... yishweho. Uzi byinshi... abanyeshuri bawe, abana bawe turabikeneye. Ni amateka ugomba kutubwira. Byanze bikunze. Guhishira abanyamerika, Kagame...ntacyo bikikunguye.
>Tege amatwi wumve:
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>http://www.rfi.fr/emission/20150214-portrait-juvenal-habyarimana-9-1016
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