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[RwandaLibre] Re: [fondationbanyarwanda] Re: *DHR* RWANDA : POUR LA MISE EN PLACE D'UNE COMMISSION VERITE ET RECONCILIATION à la sudafricaine

 

SEMAHORO,
1. Urakoze kutwibutse ibihato by'amahanga.
2. Societe nyarwanda avec ses valeurs propres et ses anti-valeurs propres n'umuco nyarwanda nabyo ubwabyo ni ibihato kuri iriya Commission Verite et Reconciliation
3. Nanjye kimwe nawe nshyigkiye UKURI n 'IMBABAZI. Ikibazo ese uko kuri kuzavugwa! ese izo mabazi zizasabwa! ese zizatangwa cyangwa se zizahanwa(kuzihana)!
(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi wa PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda abose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).


2014-10-24 0:34 GMT-04:00 Semahoro byilin@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
 

Nonese Dr Anastase Gasana,
Ziriya ngingo zanyu 3, uzirebye neza, zitaniyehe no kuyobora abanyarwanda bose muri Gatigisimu ya Kiliziya y'Imana, ko aribyo twabuze, ahubwo tukigishwa ibiCwezi byo kubeshya, hanyuma Imana ikaturakarira?
Kuki tutayoboka Imana, tugakora amategeko agendeye kuri Commandements 10 z'Imana nkuko les peres fondateurs des Etats-Unis bari babikoze, maze abihana bakajya imbere y'Intahe, mukarebako amahoro adataha iwacu I Rwanda?
Urakoze kwerekanako iyo Commission kuyivuga byoroshye, ariko gushyirwaho bitoroshye nkuko bamwe babyibwira.
Mwibukeko no muri South Africa batayitekereje uyumunsi ngo bucye ijyaho;
Mwibukeko bari bafite umubyeyi w'igihugu bose bubahaga, juste et engage dans ce processus; ko kubona Mandela mu Rwanda atari iby'ejo;
Mwibuke ko abazungu kw'isi yose bari derriere iyo projet ya CVR yo muri Afrique du Sud kuko ils voulaient proteger leurs interets ziriyo na benewabo sudafricains blancs; mu Rwanda bagomba kubanza kwemera echec de leur mesaventure et cautionner le nouveau projet. Bagomba kubanza kubyiga, kuko batemera ibyo badafitemo leadership;
Mumenyeko de Clerk sudafricain no kwemera guhinduka ar'uko yari un chretien convaincu, nous avons affaires aux athees de la derniere espece bakiraguza amahembe, bagasacrifia abantu ngo bazarambe kubutegetsi...
Nzaba mbarirwa ariko nshyigikiye UKURI n'IMBABAZI, ikibazo ni bizashyirwa mubikorwa ryari, nande?
Ndi Semahoro

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"Anastase Gasana gasana31@gmail.com [fondationbanyarwanda]" <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

> Innocent Twagiramungu,
>
>Iki gitekerezo uzanye muri debat cya komisiyo "verite et reconciliation" ni
>byiza ko abantu bakitaho bakakiganiraho aho kukirenza amaso ngo bikomereze
>kandi nta naho barimo kujya mu by'ukuri. Nyamara tukitayeho wenda cyagira
>aheza kitujyana.
>
>1.Muri PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI twagiteganije mu mahame-remezo ya politiki page
>20 aho tubona ko iyo komisiyo ifite prealable ikurikira nkuko tuyivuga muri
>point 7: "Gushyiraho komisiyo yo kwiga kw'iyicwa ry'abantu kubera impamvu
>za politiki mu mateka yose y'u Rwanda: ku ngoma ya Cyami ntutsi, Repubulika
>mputu ya mbere, Repubulika mputu ya kabiri, na Repubulika ntutsi ya mbere
>ari nayo iriho ubu;"
>
>2. Kugirango iriya commission verite et reconciliation igire icyo igeraho,
>indi prealable twatekereje tukanayitegenya ni iyo kwimakaza kuvugisha ukuri
>kuko abanyarwanda mu muco wabo bigishijwe kuva bakivuka bazi ko kuvugisha
>ukuri ari ubucucu ko kubeshya ari ukumenya ubwenge. Ikiri valeur ahandi
>(nko muri Afrique du Sud) usanga ari anti-valeur iwacu et vice
>versa.Abanyarwanda umuco wacu urangwa no kutava kw'izima(perseverance dans
>l'erreur), kugira inzika no guhoora ibi bikajyana no kudasabana imbabazi,
>kutababarira no kutababarirana biterwa n'uburyarya, imbereka n'ubuhendanyi
>byose biranga umunyarwanda mu muco we. Ujye utinya un peuple qui ne tourne
>jamais la page(they never move on. Ever.). Muri point 8 page 20 dutanga
>igitekerezo prealable cyo
>"Gutoza abanyarwanda kumva ko uburyo bwiza bwo kurwanya ingoma y'ikinyoma
>nk'iya FPR Inkotanyi ari ukuvugisha ukuri; ikinyoma ntikizakurwaho n'ikindi
>kinyoma, kizakurwaho n'ukuri, umwijima ntuzakurwaho n'undi mwijima,
>uzakurwaho n'urumuri, n'umucyo; ubuhezanguni n'ubutagondwa ntibazakurwaho
>n'ubundi buhezanguni, bizakurwaho n'ubworoherane, ubwubahane, ubwizerane,
>ubwihanganirane n'ubusabane hagati y'abenegihugu bose."
>
>3. Commission des experts b'inyangamugayo yamara gukora rapport yayo ku
>mahano y'ubwicanyi yose yabaye mu mateka y'u Rwanda n'abanyarwanda bamara
>gukangurirwa ko kuvugisha ukuri bakava mu kinyoma, uburyarya, imbereka
>n'ubuhendanyi ari byo batezeho umukiro, noneho hakaba(page 20 ingingo ya
>9): "Gushyiraho Komisiyo yo kuvugisha ukuri kose, uko mu Kinyarwanda bita
>ukuri kwambaye ubusa ku mahano yose yabaye mu Rwanda kabone n'iyo ukuri
>kwawe kwaba kubangamiye ubwoko bwawe, wowe ubwawe cyangwa abawe n'inshuti
>zawe kuko nta ngaruka habe n'imwe bizakugiraho. Ikigamijwe ni uko ahubwo
>bizagufasha kubohoka bigaha n'abaguteze amatwi kubohoka nabo maze ubundi
>wikubite icyubahiro, witere umwenda wera uzira ikizinga, utahe uri
>umunyarwanda mushya wo kubaka u Rwanda rw'Abanyarwanda bose;"
>
>Muri Afurika y'Epfo mwibuke ko icyo bashakaga cyari ukumenya ukuri kandi
>ukuri kose ku mahano yabaye, ntabwo byari uguhana abakoze ayo mahano kuko
>batajyaga kwishinja. Byari ukuvuga ukuri nyakuri buri wese azi hagamijwe
>kuvura societe yose ibikomere yari ifite(society healing process), ubundi
>abantu bakicuza bakababarirana bagataha iwabo.Ibi birashaka le sens profond
>de dire la verite et rien que la verite abanyarwanda badafite, ari nayo
>mpamvu twasanze ziriya prealables ari ngombwa iriya komisiyo "verite et
>reconciliation" igakurikiraho. (Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi wa
>PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza
>by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
>
>
>2014-10-23 6:30 GMT-04:00 Maître TWAGIRAMUNGU Innocent
>Innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <
>Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
>
>>
>>
>> RWANDA : POUR LA MISE EN PLACE D'UNE COMMISSION VERITE ET
>> RECONCILIATION
>>
>> Netters,
>> &nbsp
>> ;
>> Il nous faut d'urgence une commission "Vérité et Réconciliation" à la
>> sudafricaine pour sortir le pays de la crise et déterminer la place que les
>> criminels ( du FPR et de l'ancien régime) , qui ont pourtant occupé les
>> hautes fonctions, vont retrouver dans le pays. Il semble que la prison ne
>> soit pas la meilleure solution et que la justice du Vainqueur exercée au
>> Rwanda et au TPIR n'a fait qu'aggraver le fossé de nos divisions au
>> détriment de la Vérité et de la Réconciliation. Qu'en pensez-vous?
>>
>> *Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU*
>> *Brussels United Lawyers-B.U.L.*
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>> * http://www.bulawyers.eu <http://www.bulawyers.eu/>*
>>
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>>


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