Bavandimwe mushakisha abajenocideri, muradutangaza cyane pee!
Halya Gacaca ntiyakozwe mu midugudu (cellules) yose kuva 2004 kugeza 2012= imyaka 8 yose? Ntiyakulikizaga itegeko lyo muli 2004, lyatowe n'abadepite bayobowe na RPF, lyategekaga ko abantu bose niyonka babaga muli buli cellule (abahali n'abatahali) igihe cya genocide bagomba gusuzumwa, bagashinjanya muli izo gacaca, ndetse n'abakatiwe mu nkiko zisanzwe (classiques) bakaza gutanga umusada? DMI siyo yabiyoboraga igamije cyane cyane kwikiza abatarakotanye cyangwa se abatarayobotse ingoma?
Abategetsi bo mu Rwanda ntibakoze amaspeeches bishimira umusaruro babonye muli izo gacaca zifunze, cyane ko zali zanabakijije bamwe mubo babonagamwo ba haduyi? Ibi bisaba/byemerera inyangamugayo zose zitalisha politiki kuvuganira abo zifitiye facts ko barenganwa.
None se bigenda bite ngo habe hali ababyinira-ngoma bahindukira bagatanganika bavuza iya bahanda ngo barashakisha abajenocideri na facts zitomoye? None se prof Rwagasa yasubizwa iki kindi, uretse kubwirwa ko asa nuwatannye abyinira ahadakwiranye n'urwego rw'ubuhanga alimwo n'ubwitwaralike rusaba?
Niba imali y'abazungu yaraliwe babeshya gusa, ngaho nibayisubize, ibyo gacaca yakoze byose biseswe; noneho imali ibonetse ikoreshwe hasuzumwa bushya uruhare rw'abicanyi bo mu nterehamwe, hadakingiwe ikibaba n'abo mu nkotanyi. Ibi byo kwihorera abo mu nkotanyi byabonywe na benshi nk'ubusembwa (injustice) bwaranze Gacaca zafunze, binagilizwa na TPIR!
Banyarwanda, ko twese tuziranye mwaretse amanyanga n'ubuhendanyi tukiyunga bya nyakuli, tukubakira hamwe Urwanda ruboneye bose, Agathe, Jeanette, Paul, Kayumba, Faustin, Diane, Porkia, Ange, Marie merci, etc bakicarana bakanasangira ka brochettes na champagne!
Twanze kuzimya urumuli, dusubiza tudahishe ibyiyunviro by'abandi bavandimwe, twerekana ibyo dushoboye.
Envoyé : mardi 18 juillet 2017 17:26
À : haguruka@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re :[haguruka.com] RE: Léopold Munyakazi : "ibyo munkoreye Imana izabibabaza"
Kuko arimwe muzi neza ibyabaye muri jenocide, ko mutihishaga. Mwatubwiye abagenocidaires muzi, kuko batanabihishanga. Mwaba mwerekanye ubunyagamugayo
Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2017 02:35
À : kota venant; ndimbati jonas; rwagasana gerard; Theodore Mpatswenumugabo
Cc : J.C. Tuvugishukuri; Reyntjens Filip; bakidihe@yahoo.fr; Agnesmurebwayire; Aimable Rwamucyo; Agaculama Mu Ikibunda; Pierre Foucher; Brenden Russo; Martin Bangamwabo; Nsengiyumva Celestin; MULINDAHABI Jean-Claude; Nsengimana Callixte; Didy Minani; Democracy&Human Rights; Etienne Karekezi; karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr; F. Nsabimana; Olivier Rukundo; Rudahi20; Janvier Habyarimana; NIKOZITAMBIRWA; Innocent Twagiramungu; Innocent Twagiramungu; Mbonigaba Ismaïl; Ndagijimana Jean-Marie; Joseph Matata; MUSABYIMANA JEAN DE DIEU; Sandra Munyana; Alfred Muyango; Nzinink; Vincent Ndacyayisenga; Sharangabo Rufagari; Rukundo Claver; Lyarahoze Samuel; Skweli; Tharcisse Semana; Semahoro; Shankuru Maurice; Bernard Suku; zac.biampa@yahoo.fr; Faustin Twagiramungu; horanadavid@yahoo.fr; Michel Niyibizi; Billy Thekid; radioitahuka@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com; Veritasinfo Ngoga; nkiko.nsengimana@bluewin.ch; gasana31@gmail.com
Objet : Re: Léopold Munyakazi : "ibyo munkoreye Imana izabibabaza"
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On Tue, 7/18/17, Theodore Mpatswenumugabo <tmpatswe@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Subject: Re: Léopold Munyakazi : "ibyo munkoreye Imana izabibabaza"
To: "kota venant" <kotakori@hotmail.com>, "ndimbati jonas" <ndimbati@gmail.com>, "rwagasana gerard" <gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Cc: "J.C. Tuvugishukuri" <psj_survivors@yahoo.com>, "Reyntjens Filip" <filip.reyntjens@uantwerpen.be>, "bakidihe@yahoo.fr" <bakidihe@yahoo.fr>, "Agnesmurebwayire" <agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr>, "Aimable Rwamucyo" <aimable_r@hotmail.com>, "Agaculama Mu Ikibunda" <agaculama_mu_ikibunda@yahoo.com>, "Pierre Foucher" <akagera@hotmail.fr>, "Brenden Russo" <zigirabertin@hotmail.com>, "Martin Bangamwabo" <mbangamwabo@yahoo.fr>, "Nsengiyumva Celestin" <cnnsengi@yahoo.fr>, "MULINDAHABI Jean-Claude" <mulijeanclaude@hotmail.fr>, "Nsengimana Callixte" <nsengabe@yahoo.fr>, "Didy Minani" <didyminani@yahoo.com>, "Democracy&Human Rights" <itwagira@yahoo.fr>, "Etienne Karekezi" <ekarekez@voanews.com>, "karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr" <karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr>, "F. Nsabimana" <nsabifaustin@yahoo.ca>, "Olivier Rukundo" <orukundo@gmail.com>, "Rudahi20" <rudahi20@hotmail.com>, "Janvier Habyarimana" <janvierhabyara@yahoo.com>, "NIKOZITAMBIRWA" <murayi_habimana@yahoo.fr>, "Innocent Twagiramungu" <itwagira71@gmail.com>, "Innocent Twagiramungu" <innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr>, "Mbonigaba Ismaïl" <ismbonigaba@yahoo.fr>, "Ndagijimana Jean-Marie" <jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com>, "Joseph Matata" <cliir2004@yahoo.fr>, "MUSABYIMANA JEAN DE DIEU" <musajados@yahoo.fr>, "Sandra Munyana" <sandra_munyana@yahoo.fr>, "Alfred Muyango" <ngabo@arcor.de>, "Nzinink" <nzinink@yahoo.com>, "Vincent Ndacyayisenga" <rugura@yahoo.com>, "Sharangabo Rufagari" <sharangabo.rufagari@gmail.com>, "Rukundo Claver" <ruclaver2000@yahoo.fr>, "Lyarahoze Samuel" <lyar66@yahoo.fr>, "Skweli" <skweli@yahoo.fr>, "Tharcisse Semana" <semanasuisse@yahoo.fr>, "Semahoro" <byilin@yahoo.com>, "Shankuru Maurice" <m_shankuru3000@yahoo.fr>, "Bernard Suku" <bsuku07bis@yahoo.com>, "zac.biampa@yahoo.fr" <zac.biampa@yahoo.fr>, "Faustin Twagiramungu" <faustintwagira@yahoo.fr>, "horanadavid@yahoo.fr" <horanadavid@yahoo.fr>, "Michel Niyibizi" <niyimike@yahoo.fr>, "Billy Thekid" <billthekid24@yahoo.com>, "radioitahuka@gmail.com" <radioitahuka@gmail.com>, "haguruka@yahoogroups.com" <haguruka@yahoogroups.com>, "Veritasinfo Ngoga" <veritasinfo@yahoo.fr>, "nkiko.nsengimana@bluewin.ch" <nkiko.nsengimana@bluewin.ch>, "gasana31@gmail.com" <gasana31@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2017, 7:01 PM
Merci
cher Venant pour cette mise au point. Je
me permets d'insister et d'inviter les uns et les
autres, dont prof Rwagasana, de se donner la peine de
vérifier la véracité d'une chose: Prof Munyakazi
n'a pas une goutte de sang sur les mains. C'est un
innocent qui est condamné. Encore un de
plus!!!Quand
allons nous défendre les innocents? Quand
allons nous refuser que le mensonge soit mis sur un
piédestal?
De : kota venant
<kotakori@hotmail.com>
À : ndimbati jonas
<ndimbati@gmail.com>; rwagasana gerard
<gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Cc : J.C.
Tuvugishukuri <psj_survivors@yahoo.com>; Reyntjens
Filip <filip.reyntjens@uantwerpen.be>;
"bakidihe@yahoo.fr" <bakidihe@yahoo.fr>;
Agnesmurebwayire <agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr>; Aimable
Rwamucyo <aimable_r@hotmail.com>; Agaculama Mu
Ikibunda <agaculama_mu_ikibunda@yahoo.com>; Pierre
Foucher <akagera@hotmail.fr>; Brenden Russo
<zigirabertin@hotmail.com>; Martin Bangamwabo
<mbangamwabo@yahoo.fr>; Nsengiyumva Celestin
<cnnsengi@yahoo.fr>; MULINDAHABI Jean-Claude
<mulijeanclaude@hotmail.fr>; Nsengimana Callixte
<nsengabe@yahoo.fr>; Didy Minani
<didyminani@yahoo.com>; Democracy&Human Rights
<itwagira@yahoo.fr>; Etienne Karekezi
<ekarekez@voanews.com>;
"karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr"
<karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr>; F. Nsabimana
<nsabifaustin@yahoo.ca>; Olivier Rukundo
<orukundo@gmail.com>; Rudahi20
<rudahi20@hotmail.com>; Janvier Habyarimana
<janvierhabyara@yahoo.com>; NIKOZITAMBIRWA
<murayi_habimana@yahoo.fr>; Innocent Twagiramungu
<itwagira71@gmail.com>; Innocent Twagiramungu
<innocent_twagiramungu@yahoo.fr>; Mbonigaba Ismaïl
<ismbonigaba@yahoo.fr>; Ndagijimana Jean-Marie
<jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com>; Joseph Matata
<cliir2004@yahoo.fr>; MUSABYIMANA JEAN DE DIEU
<musajados@yahoo.fr>; Sandra Munyana
<sandra_munyana@yahoo.fr>; Alfred Muyango
<ngabo@arcor.de>; Nzinink <nzinink@yahoo.com>;
Vincent Ndacyayisenga <rugura@yahoo.com>; Sharangabo
Rufagari <sharangabo.rufagari@gmail.com>; Rukundo
Claver <ruclaver2000@yahoo.fr>; Lyarahoze Samuel
<lyar66@yahoo.fr>; Skweli <skweli@yahoo.fr>;
Tharcisse Semana <semanasuisse@yahoo.fr>; Semahoro
<byilin@yahoo.com>; Shankuru Maurice
<m_shankuru3000@yahoo.fr>; Bernard Suku
<bsuku07bis@yahoo.com>; Theodore Mpatswenumugabo
<tmpatswe@yahoo.fr>; "zac.biampa@yahoo.fr"
<zac.biampa@yahoo.fr>; Faustin Twagiramungu
<faustintwagira@yahoo.fr>;
"horanadavid@yahoo.fr"
<horanadavid@yahoo.fr>; Michel Niyibizi
<niyimike@yahoo.fr>; Billy Thekid
<billthekid24@yahoo.com>;
"radioitahuka@gmail.com"
<radioitahuka@gmail.com>;
"haguruka@yahoogroups.com"
<haguruka@yahoogroups.com>; Veritasinfo Ngoga
<veritasinfo@yahoo.fr>;
"nkiko.nsengimana@bluewin.ch"
<nkiko.nsengimana@bluewin.ch>;
"gasana31@gmail.com" <gasana31@gmail.com>
Envoyé le
: Mardi 18 juillet 2017 16h48
Objet : RE:
Léopold Munyakazi : "ibyo munkoreye Imana
izabibabaza"
Merci prof Gerard Rwagasana, et
permettez qu'on cause un peu en veritables
intellectuels:
1. Votre dire rappelle bien helas ce
que d'autres rwandais disaient en 1990 lorsqu'on ramassait des innocents
accuses sans
preuves evidentes, de collaboration avec Inkotanyi qui attaquaient
le Rwanda. Des partisans aux forts de ce
moment disaient
comme vous le faites:
ces messieurs et dames payent pour
leur crime. Par contre,
prof
L. Munyakazi etait de ce qui n'acceptait pas cela.
Demandez a son
epouse Tutsi!
2. Prof. L.
Munyakazi represente beaucoup;
et pour preuve, les USA se sont mobilises pour le
transferer au Rwanda pendant que le gouvernement rwandais (GR)
deployait toute
sa diplomatie pour l'obtenir. Nul
rationnel ne penserait une seconde que les USA et le GR
sont stupides afin de suer autant pour une
affaire/une personne sans valeur.
3. Prof Rwagasana, vous savez
bien qu'il est
normal/admis de tuer son ennemi sur champ de bataille. Mais
vous savez bien aussi qu'il n'est point permis de
le tuer en le torturant, en le
soumettant aux traitements degradants, ce qui est reserve a ce
prof Munyakazi par son " burundu y'umwiherero". Vous
semblez donc
tomber dans du cynisme lorsque vous dites que ce prof
(votre collegue en tant
que prof)
sera bien, car non tue!
4. Des nautes comme nous
ne sont pas charges de juger et
condamner les Rwandais.
Mais c'est leur droit de constater si des
jugements reflettent
les faits veridiques/vus ou pas et
ainsi apprecier
positivement ou
negativement les
jugements et les juges impliques. Vous
avez vu pareils dans l'histoire de ce monde: lisez par
exemple le cas d'Alfred Dreyfus!
5. Prof Rwagasana, nous Rwandais reconnaissons l'Histoire
tragique de notre pays. Mais pouvez vous nous dire
exactement pourquoi
vous assenez que toute vie doit se referer
coute que coute au genocide, a l'instar
de comme aucune vie n'est possible sans de l'eau et
de l'air?
Voila et s.v.p.
echangeons tout en sauvegardant bien notre niveau de prof
et intellectuels!
De : rwagasana gerard
<gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : mardi 18 juillet 2017 01:45
À : kota venant; ndimbati jonas
Cc : J.C. Tuvugishukuri; Reyntjens Filip;
bakidihe@yahoo.fr; Agnesmurebwayire; Aimable Rwamucyo;
Agaculama Mu Ikibunda; Pierre Foucher; Brenden Russo; Martin
Bangamwabo; Nsengiyumva Celestin; MULINDAHABI Jean-Claude;
Nsengimana Callixte; Didy Minani;
Democracy&Human Rights; Etienne Karekezi;
karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr; F. Nsabimana; Olivier Rukundo;
Rudahi20; Janvier Habyarimana; NIKOZITAMBIRWA; Innocent
Twagiramungu; Innocent Twagiramungu; Mbonigaba Ismaïl;
Ndagijimana Jean-Marie; Joseph Matata; MUSABYIMANA
JEAN DE DIEU; Sandra Munyana; Alfred Muyango; Nzinink;
Vincent Ndacyayisenga; Sharangabo Rufagari; Rukundo Claver;
Lyarahoze Samuel; Skweli; Tharcisse Semana; Semahoro;
Shankuru Maurice; Bernard Suku; Theodore Mpatswenumugabo;
zac.biampa@yahoo.fr; Faustin
Twagiramungu; horanadavid@yahoo.fr; Michel Niyibizi; Billy
Thekid; radioitahuka@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com;
Veritasinfo Ngoga; nkiko.nsengimana@bluewin.ch;
gasana31@gmail.com
Objet : Re: Léopold Munyakazi : "ibyo munkoreye
Imana izabibabaza"
Ce
monsieur paye ses crimes et c tout. Ntacyo aricyo, il ne
represente rien cyatuma bamuhora ubusa. Yarishe (benshi)
agize Imana ntazicwa (nicyo yarakwiye we na ba assassins
nkawe bose).
Ariko
hari umu jenosideri mwari mwakondana numwe??? Oya kuri mwe
nta jenoside yabayeho donc ... Mupfuye muhagaze,
Rwagasana
Gerard
P.O. Box 4301 Kigali - Rwanda
Mob:
250-788460976
Home: 250 255104911
mailto: gerwaga@yahoo.com
The Secret: Thoughts become Things
On Monday, 17
July 2017, 14:28, kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Yemwe bavandimwe, twakwitonda
ko bulya Immana ibaho kandi ikora
ibyayo.
Ukuntu prof. L. Munyakazi yangaga
interahamwe, akagera naho yanga abo yakekaga bose ko baba
baturanye nazo, agakumira CESTRAR kwegera MRND, none dore
akatiwe umwiherero wa burundu
ngo kubera ko yali Interahamwe cyangwa se yarafatanije nazo
kwica abatutsi iwabo Ikayenzi! Kuki ibi
bidatuma ufite ubwenge
bukora wese yibaza? Niba upfuye
abona ibibera
hano ku isi,
Habyarimana, Gatabazi, Gasakure, Rwigara,
Sendashonga ...bagomba kuba batangara
bumiwe.
Isomo likuru nuko ntawurenga urwo yagenewe, naho yalicanira
likaba umutuku:
"Ngo hali umuhigi wunvise
Immana igenera agahinja-kobwa kaliho gasohoka mu maguru ya
nyina ko kazicwa n'ihembe ly'inzovu gatwise
iy'ubuliza.
Nuko umuhigi ati reka nzahinyuze
Immana. Aracunga, agakobwa
kabaye agakumi, aza kugasaba arakarongora, agashyira mu
rugo ruzitijwe igipangu gikaze. Ntibishyize kera, Nyamukobwa aba
atwise
iyambere. Umuhigi
nyirurugo ashyiraho abahigi
icumi balinda urugo ngo bazakumire inyamaswa yose yashaka kwinjira
igipangu, na Nyamugore utwise ahabwa
amabwiliza yo kutazajya na limwe inyuma y'igipangu.
Birubahilizwa.
Hashize agahe gato umuhigi-nyirurugo yambika
impigi, barasohoka bajya guhiga. Imbwa zikora
hasi ziba zivumbuye ishyira (urukwavu), rwiruka rugana kwa muhigi, rutangira
kuzenguruka igipangu
rushaka akenge ngo rube rwahungiramwo. Imbwa nazo
zirwirukaho zivuza amayombo, biba byiza pee.
Umugore ashaka gusohoka ngo arebe,
baramwangira. Asubira inyuma, yulira urugo ngo arebere
hejuru ibiliho bihogera hanze.
Imbwa ziba zinyuze hafi yaho yali yuliye buli imwe izunguza
amayombo, bilyoshye cyane nka za animasiyo twabonye cyangwa
se tubona ubu. Wa mubyeyi utwise nawe aba arahimbawe, arekura
urubaliro yali afasheho, arahanuka, agahembe k'inzovu kali
gaharaze igipangu kamwijomba mu gifu, gasandaza umutima,
gahinguka mu muhogo. Agera hasi
yumye. Batabaza umuhigi-nyirurugo bati umugore wawe yishwe n'ihembe
ly'inzovu.
Umuhigi abyunvise yibuka ibanga, ati
nimushyingure muhore:
ntacyo wakora ngo ukwepe nyamunsi.
Gusa muntu agomba kubaho kandi agakora uko ashoboye ngo
hubahilizwe ko icyagenwe gishyika mu mucyo."
De : ndimbati jonas
<ndimbati@gmail.com>
Envoyé : samedi 15 juillet 2017 16:13
À : f
Cc : J.C. Tuvugishukuri; Reyntjens Filip;
bakidihe@yahoo.fr; Agnesmurebwayire; Aimable Rwamucyo;
Agaculama Mu Ikibunda; Pierre Foucher; Brenden Russo; Martin
Bangamwabo; Nsengiyumva Celestin; MULINDAHABI Jean-Claude;
Nsengimana Callixte; Didy Minani;
Democracy&Human Rights; Etienne Karekezi;
karambizi.straton@yahoo.fr; F. Nsabimana; Olivier Rukundo;
Rudahi20; Janvier Habyarimana; NIKOZITAMBIRWA; Innocent
Twagiramungu; Innocent Twagiramungu; Mbonigaba Ismaïl;
Ndagijimana Jean-Marie; Joseph Matata; MUSABYIMANA
JEAN DE DIEU; Sandra Munyana; Alfred Muyango; Nzinink;
Vincent Ndacyayisenga; Sharangabo Rufagari; Rukundo Claver;
Lyarahoze Samuel; Skweli; Tharcisse Semana; Semahoro;
Shankuru Maurice; Bernard Suku; Theodore Mpatswenumugabo;
Kota Venant; Claudine Vidal;
zac.biampa@yahoo.fr; Faustin Twagiramungu;
horanadavid@yahoo.fr; Michel Niyibizi; Billy Thekid
Objet : Léopold Munyakazi : "ibyo munkoreye
Imana izabibabaza"
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