[haguruka.com] Re: Ifawa rya Prof. Munyakazi ntirisobanura Politiki y'Amerika ku Rwanda., nta nubwo rivuga abaye umujenosideri.

 

Urakoze cyane Bwana Munyabagisha.

Weekend nziza!

On Sep 30, 2016, at 4:14 PM, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Abatuye mu karere... bagomba kuhava... hari ubukungu..." (Shimamungu).

Nyemerera Nzinink nkunganire, bene iyi sesengura byitwa paranoia, guhahamuka! 

Ubwo bukungu se ubumenya ute? Uwareka ananyabihugu bakishyira bakizama bazsmenya gutandukanya intosho na zahabu? 

Ikibazo rwose si abandi, ni twe. Umuti nawo si ahandi, ni muli twe.

Kuki Usa, Canada baryama mu buriri bumwe na Kigali?

3/ Inyungu z'ibihugu, ahanini z.ubukungu

2/ Ubwoba bw'inkurikizi z'iraswa ry'indege ryakozwe na Casques Bleus ku umupango wa Clinton, Koffi Anan, Chretien na gouvernement y'ububiligi.

1/ ubuswa bwacu mu gusesengura aya mahano.

Ni ibyo nta kindi. 

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Date: ven., 30 sept. 2016 9:56 AM

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Objet:[Collectif CRES], Re: Ifawa rya Prof. Munyakazi ntirisobanura Politiki y'Amerika ku Rwanda., nta nubwo rivuga abaye umujenosideri.

"Abahatuye (mu karere k'ibiyaga bigari by'Afrika) bose bagomba kuhava (bagomba gupfa cg bagasuhuka) kuko hari ubukungu isi yose ikeneye Amerika igashaka kuhigarurira hose", Eugene Shimamungu.

Eugene,

N'ubwo wavuze ko iyi ngingo utari bubashe gukomeza kuyiganiraho, ndagirango nkwibutse ko ibyo  turimo kuganiraho ari 

"kuki Amerika yohereje Leopold mu Rda: inyungu z'Amerika cg ingufu za Kagame/RPF"?

Urabona se biriya uvuze bisobanura ko Amerika yasubiza muri kariya karere abahahunze? Oya? Hari izindi nyungu zitazwi neza.

Nabahaye inyandiko ya avoka wa Leopold ivuga ko Amerika idaha ubuhungiro umuntu  byagaragaye ko na we ubwe yigeze gutoteza abandi bantu.

Ibi ntako bias. Nta muntu utabishyigikiye.

Nabahaye n'inyandiko ziri kuri blog ya Leopld zigaragza ukuntu ubucamanza bw'Amerika bwabogamye cyane  biteye isoni. 

Birashoboka ko wowe na Bernard Suku mutazisomye.

Uyu Bernard Suku we nabonye mu kanya yihaye kuvuga ibyo atazi ngo "nohereza inyandiko ntasomye"!

Tugarutse ku ngingo nyamukuru, icyo wowe na Bernard Suku mwagombye kumenya ni uko ibyandikwa mu bitabo hirya no hino ntaho bitandukaniye n'ibyandikwa kuri internet buri munsi. Ibyinshi ni propagande zidafite aho zihuriye n'ukuri.

Nabasabye gihamya (preuve/evidence) y'ibikubiye muri US policy to the African Great Region).

Iyo gihamya igomba kuba inyandiko/amajwi  y'abayobozi/inzego z'ubuyobozi bw'Amerika: diplomatic cables, Congress resolutions, CIA/State Dept/Pentagon documents, etc.

Niba ntazo mufite , ndumva nta muntu uzabaveba kubera ko bitoroshye kubona bene izi documents bitewe n'uko ziba ari classified top secret.

N'ikimenyimenyi, iki kibazo mperutse kukibaza network ndiho y'abaprof/chercheurs des universites/ journalists and civil rights activists bo muri Amerika, Canada , Europe and Africa, mbibutsa ko iyo Leopold aba yarabaga mu Burayi aba ataroherejwe mu Rda kubera amanyanga menshi ari muri dosiye ye.

Abantu bose baricecekeye kugeza ubu uretse umukongomani umwe wahise avuga exactement nka biriya wanditse....!

Nzinink

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From: "SHEMA shimamungu@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
To: Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr
Cc: DHR <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>; Imbona-Nkubone <Imbona-Nkubone@yahoogroupes.fr>; rwanda revolution <rwanda_revolution@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:32 PM
Subject: *DHR* Re: [uRwanda_rwacu] Re: Ifawa rya Prof. Munyakazi ntirisobanura Politiki y'Amerika ku Rwanda., nta nubwo rivuga abaye umujenosideri.

 

Muvandimwe Selesitini na Nzinink,

Murantangaje! Nibaza aho muba muri iyo abantu bandika kuri izi mbuga, nibaza aho muba muri iyo abantu batangaza ibitabo bakirirwa bisihinga badusobanurira neza impamvu Amerika ishaka kariya karere kose, atari u Rwanda gusa. Mwe kwireba ku mukondo nk'u Rwanda gusa murebe akarere kose. None se habaye akaduruvayo hariya muri kariya karere bidaturutse mu Rwanda? Muribwira ko ari u Rwanda gusa bashaka? Oya. Impamvu byaturutse mu Rwanda ni uko byari byoroshye kubasandaguza. Abanyarwanda bo ubwabo ntibazongera kubona amahoro mu gihe hagituye abantu. Kuko gahunda ni ndende muri kariya gace kose ka Afrika yo hagati. Abahatuye bose bagomba kuhava (bagomba gupfa cg bagasuhuka) kuko hari ubukungu isi yose ikeneye Amerika igashaka kuhigarurira hose. Uzabaze impamvu igisasu cya rutura cya mbere (bombe) cyakorewe muri Kongo.
Mureke guteta. Uwigeze gutegeka ububanyi n'amahanga mu Bwongereza Baroness Lynda Chalker of Wallassey niwe watangije iyo gahunda yo kumara abantu muri kariya gace, asunika gahunda ya ONAPO, agasanga ntacyo bivuze agahita mo gusunika ba gashoza ntambara. Muzasome na none igitabo cy'uwitwa Noheri Ndanyuzwe, nziko abenshi bataragisoma, hari mo ingingo n'impamvu nta bantu bagombye kuba muri kariya gace, n'iyo bahasigara bagasigara bake cyane kandi bayobowe na ba gashaka buhake bari ku butegetsi ubu cg abo bazashaka ko babasimbura: "La guerre mondiale africaine: la conspiration anglo-américaine pour un génocide au Rwanda". Ntimutekereze ko nza kubona umwanya wo gukomeza iki kiganiro, ahasigaye mubage mwifashe njye nta mwanya nkibona wo kwandika kuri izi mbuga.

Umunsi mwiza

Eugène Shimamungu
Site: http://www.editions-sources-du-nil.fr/
Blog: http://www.editions-sources-du-nil.over-blog.com

2016-09-29 19:32 GMT+02:00 Nsengiyumva Celestin cnnsengi@yahoo.fr [uRwanda_rwacu] <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com>:

 

Muvandimwe Shimamungu,

nanjye maze imyaka n'imyaniko hano muli America; ibyinshi mu byanditwe kubirebana na "interest" z'Amerika muli kaliya karere najye ndabisoma, aliko si ndasobanukirwa kubyo Amerika yaba ishaka muli kaliya karere k'iwacu. Muli moyen orient, hali peteroli. Muli Afrique subsaharienne, hali peteroli, amabuye y'agaciro, no gukumira intagondwa z'aba Islam. Haliya iwacu ho muli ibyo byose ntagihali. Igihali abantu bose babona kuva muli za 1990, ni ihonyorwa ry'uburenganzira bw'ikiremwa-muntu, likorwa n'abashyigikiwe n'Amerika. Amabuye y'agaciro ali I Kongo, ntabwo ali mu Rwanda.Ikindi muntu yakeka n'uko Amerika yaba ishaka kwikingira kuzaregwa ubufatanya-cyaha mu marorerwa yo muli kaliya karere. Aliko se, wakwilinda kuregwa ubufatanya-cyaha ukomeza kwishora mubikorwa birushaho kugaragaza n'ibitabonekaga neza, ko igihugu cy'igihangangwe nka Amerika gifite uruhare muli aliya marorerwa?

Dr Shimamungu,

Wowe ubona Amerika ishaka iki mu Rwanda?

Le Jeudi 29 septembre 2016 1h24, "SHEMA shimamungu@gmail.com [uRwanda_rwacu]" <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com > a écrit :

 

Nzinink ati:
"Ikibazo abanyarwanda, abarundi n'abakongomani dufite ni uko kugeza ubu tutazi icyo Amerika ishaka muri kariya karere.

Nitukimenya tuzashobora guhanga ingamba z'ukuntu twakorana n'Amerika tutayihutaje cg uko twakwitwara kuri Amerika tudakanze rutenderi." (Nzinink)

Abanyapolitiki muratangaje!! Ubu se koko ntimurakimenya, n'ibyandikwa hano buri munsi, n'ibyandikwa mu bitabo, ibivugwa mu binyamakuru, ntimuramenya icyabasohoye mu gihugu? Nizere ko uri mo kwikinira, ariko urakina mu bibabaje!

Eugène Shimamungu
Site: http://www.editions-sources- du-nil.eu/
Blog: http://editions-sources-du- nil.over-blog.com/

2016-09-29 4:22 GMT+02:00 Nzinink nzinink@yahoo.com [uRwanda_rwacu] <uRwanda_rwacu@yahoogroups.com >:

 

"Iyo Amerika imenya uko Leta y'u Rwanda ibeshya , hanyuma igatekinika, ntiba yaritaye ku bivugwa n'ibyandikwa kuri Prof. Leopold Munyakazi": Senga.

Njye siko mbibona kubera ko Amerika ntacyo itazi. 

Hari impamvu nyamukuru itavugwa ituma bakora kuriya bagashyigikira ibidashyikirwa. 

Dore uko avoka wa Leopoldyigeze kubisobanura.

"As for the law, a person cannot get asylum if there is evidence indicating that they are a persecutor of others.  So, notwithstanding a finding that he has been the subject of past persecution and has a reasonable fear of future persecution based on his political opinion, he was found ineligible for asylum because we were unable to demonstrate by a preponderance of the evidence that he was NOT involved in the genocide.  The evidence of the US government consisted of the warrants and reports from a Special Agent who went to Rwanda to investigate these claims.  He interviewed a number of people, most of whom were convicted genocidaires who "suddenly" had information that Leopold was at this April 19 meeting". 

Ikibazo abanyarwanda, abarundi n'abakongomani dufite ni uko kugeza ubu tutazi icyo Amerika ishaka muri kariya karere.

Nitukimenya tuzashobora guhanga ingamba z'ukuntu twakorana n'Amerika tutayihutaje cg uko twakwitwara kuri Amerika tudakanze rutenderi.

Leopold nta kindi azize uretse ikiganiro yatanze muri 2006 muri Universite yo muri Delaware kuri ariya mahano yo muri 1994, aho yavuze ko ibyabaye mu Rda ari itsembabavandimwe (fratricide) aho kuba itsembabwoko (genocide). 

Leopold Munyakazi ntiyajyanywe mu Rda kubera ingufu/ ikinyoma cya Kagame/ RPF. Yajyanywe yo  k'ubushake bw'Amerika kubera impamvu zitazwi kugeza ubu.

 

Ngiryo nyiryo ihurizo buri wese yagombye kugerageza gusubiza.

Pour votre info:

The Curious Case of Leopold Munyakazi | #saveleopold
https://leopoldsite.wordpress. com/

Nzinink

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"Hate Cannot Drive Out Hate. Only Love Can Do That", Dr. Martin Luther King.

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On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:23 PM, sengemm@yahoo.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <mailto:Democracy_Human_ Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 

Mwarimu  Munyakazi Leopold yageze muri Amerika mu mwaka wa 2004 mu kwezi kwa Nyakanga, aje mu nama. Ibi ubwabyo bigaragaza ko Prof Munyakazi yavuye mu Rwanda rubizi, abifitiye uruhushya, cyane ko yari yararangije igifungo yari yarahawe ku buryo bunyuranyije n'amategeko. Yari afite impapuro zose zimuhanaguraho icyo cyaha, yari yarasizwe  n'ubutegetsi bubi.

Nka buri wese utotezwa, Munyakazi ageze hano muri Amerika yagerageje kuba yakwishakira ubuhungiro, ariko biratinda. Yaje kubona akazi ko kwigisha muri za Colleges zo mu gace yari atuyem, ariko nk'umuntu uhangayikishwa n'uburenganzira bwa Kiremwamuntu, akomeza gusobanura imiterere y'ubugizi bwa nabi bw'ingoma ya Kigali. Igitonyanga cyaje gusendereza inkombe cyaje kuba ikiganiro yaii yateguriye imwe muri za Kaminuza za Delaware, aho yaje kumvikanisha uko we yumva uko jenoside mu Rwanda yagenze. Muri icyo  kiganiro kikaba cyari kirimo  Louise Mushikiwabo (yari atari yajya kuba mu Rwanda), utarihanganye, ahita akoma akaruru ko Delaware yatewe n'umupfobyi wa jenoside. Ubwo inzira ndende yo kugorwa yari itangiye kuri Prof Munyakazi. Kigali yarahagurutse itangira kungikanya ibirego, ndetse igera n'aho yivuguruza ivuga ko Munyakazi yaje atarangije igihano cye muri gereza. Buri gihe Prof. Munyakazai yerekanaga inyandiko ziyandikiwe n'ubutegetsi bwa Kigali bumufungura. Byarakomeje rero bakomeza kumubangamira mu byo yagerageje byose ngo yibesheho, mbese ubuzima babugira inzira y'umusaraba. Uko gushaka kumubangamira  ngo atabona akazi, bamushinja jenoside byagize ingaruka zikomeye ku mahirwe ye yo kubona ubuhungiro.

Ifatwa, ifungwa n'iyoherezwa mu Rwanda bijyanye n'ibikorwa byo kwimuka no gutura, no kwemererwa ubuhunzi; kurusha uko byaba  kuryozwa ibikowa bya jenoside nk'uko Kigali ibyirata.

Ubu I Kigali inkuru ni kimomo guhera ejobundi tariki ya 26 Nzeli 2016, ko Leta ya Kigali yataye muri yombi umujenosideri. Ibi bintu ntabwo ari byo. Nubwo ari ko Kigali ishaka ko byumvikana ntabwo ukuri ari uko. Birababaje ko Prof Munyakazi ajyanywe kandi tuzi ko umuntu bageretseho urwo rusyo rw' ingengabitekerezo ya jenoside na jenoside ubwayo afatwa muri kiriya gihugu, ariko uko Leta ishaka kumvikanisha ikibazo si ko kuri. Byose ni itekinika.

Ikibiri inyuma byose abantu bagomba kukimenya: ni uko Prof. Munyakazi atigeze agobwa ururimi ngo abwike, maze ahe amahoro ubutegetsi bwa Kigali. Iyo aza akisabira ubuhungiro ntagerageze kuvuga imbere y'abanyabwenge  ba za University, yenda ntibari kumwitaho. Ariko rero kamere ya Prof Munyakazi Leopold yo kuvugisha ukuri no kuguharanira ntibyari kumwemerera.

Ikindi iyo Amerika bamenya uko Leta y'u Rwanda ibeshya , hanyuma igatekinika, ntiba yaritaye ku bivugwa n'ibyandikwa kuri Prof. Leopold Munyakazi. Ubusanzwe ibihugu byateye imbere bitekereza ko abashinzwe politiki y'igihugu baba bashishikajwe n'imibereho myiza y'abaturage babo, ntibaramenya ko hari za Leta  zashyize imbere kwica zikamaraho abaturage bazo, cyane iyo babangamiye  ibinyoma zishaka ko byigishwa, bikavugwa ku Isi yose. Aha byumvikane neza habaye impurirane y'ibibazo bibiri, Leta ya Kigali yabashije kungukiramo, bityo ibona uwo yari yarabuze, ariko amateka azabigarukaho.

Mu gihe Leta ya Kigali ivuza inzumbeti ko yazanye igifi kinini cya jenoside, muri Amerika, mu nzego z'ubutegetsi zinyuranye ntibohereje Prof Munyakazi mu Rwanda nk'umujenosideri, ahubwo yoherejwe nk'umuntu utarabonye ubuhungiro ku buryo bunyuze mu mategeko. Ibi bikaba ari ibintu bisanzwe bikitwa "deportation". Ni ibintu bikorwa ku muntu wese ugerageza kuba ku butaka bwa Amerika atabifitiy impapuro. Birababaje ko mu Rwanda babigira intwaro ya politiki, barangaza abantu ahubwo bagamije ubugizi bwa nabi,; ariko nta ho bihuriye n'ukuri , kuko na bo bazi ko Prof. Munyakazi Leopold nta ho yijanditse muri jenoside. Yatanze abagabo mu gihe yaburanaga, atsinze arafungurwa. Nta kuntu rero umuntu yahanagurwaho icyaha maze, kubera ko atakiri mu gihugu icyaha kikongera kuvuka.

Leta y'u Rwanda ishimishijwe no kuba ifunze umuntu ugaragara wabashaga kuyivuga uko iteye kandi bikumvikana, kubera ubuhanga isi yose yari imuziho; kumufunga bamubeshyera bisa nk'aho byahindutse umuti w'iriya Leta ihotora, ikica.uwo ari we wese utavuga rumwe na yo. Ariko rero ibi tubona byari bikwiye kubera icyitegererezo ku bagaburirwa na yo kandi bakayishyigikira mu bugizi bwa nabi bwayo.

Abanyarwanda turasabwa iki iyo twitegereje aya maherere? Icya mbere dusabwa ni ugushyira hamwe, tugatsinda ya ndwara yo kumva ko bibaye kuri uriya, wowe bitakureba; kuko uyu munsi ni we; nimugoroba ni wowe. Icya kabiri bidusaba ni ukudacika intege, tugakomeza kugaragaza ububi n'ububisha bw'iriya Leta irangajwe imbere n'abicanyi n'abacurabinyoma, na bo barangajwe imbere n'uwigize Perezida, ariko udahwema kwiyambika ubusa hano muri Amerika n'ahandi hose agenzwa no kwishyira imbere. Urebye arumva na we nta gihe gihagije ashigaje, ibi bikaba bidusaba gukomeza kongera umurego tukamufasha kwihirika.

Amasengesho yacu abane na Prof. Leopold Munyakazi n'umuryango we, kandi turabizi icyiza kizatsinda ikibi.

Emmanuel Senga.

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