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Friday 22 February 2019

[haguruka] RE: Tweet from Mushimire Olivier (@OliverMushimire)

 

Mr Foucher n'est pas oblige a commenter une evidence de fait, chers Liza et consorts. 

Rwanda serait en de plus mauvais draps que ceux qui l'enveloppent aujourd'hui, si RPF qui avait commence la guerre ne l'avait pas gagnee: ce qui s'appelle "arreter le genocide" en langage d'exploit victorieux. Oui, les membres et les pro-RPF avaient infiltre tout le pays, et plusieurs citoyens avaient pris au hamecon, sans en mesurer les consequences. Rutaremara, Kajeguhwaka ont revele qu'il y avait plus de 150 cellures d'infiltration travaillant dans tout le pays. Guichaoua (2004) a rapporte un Butareen declarant " plutot RPF que les Bakiga "et ceux de Ruhengeri rivalisaient a se rendre a Mulindi apprendre les strategies politico-militaires au pres du chairman RPF Alxis et de son major Paul. Plusieurs dissidents RPA ont revele a qui veulent entendre ou voir comment effectivement cette infiltration etait efficace jusqu'a etre dans les interahamwe, ou a assasiner certains pour les mettre ensuite au dos d'Habyarimana. Bref le pays etaient completement metastasee de RPF et general Kabarebe lui-meme dans son discours pour se disculper de l'assassinat d'Habyarimana aupres des jeunes est eloquent: "les FAR etaient pratiquement finies" disait-il! 

A supposer alors que Dieu ait performe un miracle et que ces FAR et la population pratiquement noyautees par la rebelion RPF aient gagne la guerre, la suite logique aurait ete de se debarraser des traitres (ceux qui avaient mordu a l'hamecon RPF et ceux qui etaient neutres vis-a-vis des 2 belligerants- ba ntibindeba), nombreux et dissemines partout au pays. A cela, il fallait ajouter ceux qui etaient deja tombes, pleures dans le genocide et dans d'autres crimes de guerre. Les refugies qui avaient tant finance et combattu pour rentrer au Rwanda allaient tout perdre, attisant une haine plus terrible  contre ce pays.
Alors, comment un tel pays allait-il se mettre de nouveau sur les rails? Aucun scientifique honnete n'en voit les moyens pacifiques et harmonieux. RPF devait donc gagne sa guerre qu'elle avait bien prepare et c'etait pour le Rwanda  le moindre mal. La communaute internationale l'avait probablemet su, raison pour laquelle elle agit comme amplement montre dans https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB472/. Les rwandais ont joue au con et le meilleur a gagne!
 
Pauvre general Bizimungu fanfaronnait comme tout dirigeant en difficulte, interroge par un quidam. Il n'est pas le seul ni le premier a agir ainsi:  HE fait autant plusieurs fois et ministre Sezibera feint de ne pas connaitre P5 et RNC que pourtant son patron combat.

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Objet : Tweet from Mushimire Olivier (@OliverMushimire)
 
J'invite Foucher à nous faire un commentaire sur le point 7 de ce thread! 

Mushimire Olivier (@OliverMushimire) tweeted at 10:17 PM on Wed, Feb 20, 2019:  9/ Readers of @IOL won't probably realise that only God knows what #Rwanda would be today if RPF had not stopped the genocide, despite being outnumbered by killers.    In the process some of RPF brave #Inkotanyi fighters sacrificed their lives on the battlefield.    Forever grateful. https://t.co/y1bxfNGNpj  (https://twitter.com/OliverMushimire/status/1098315822643269637?s=09)    Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13

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[haguruka] RE: Perezida Kagame ntameze nk’abandi bayobozi ba Afurika iyo bagiye hanze -Gen Kabarebe

 

Huuum, ahubwo barakwereka ukwezi, aho ku kureba wowe ukabona urutoki!

Buliya jenerali Kabarebe arakwena baliya yoza ubwonko, ahilikira ikibuye mu masaka cyo guhisha ingendo zikabije za HE (ntawundi muprezida ukora nkazo), aliko anavuga mu kizimizo umugambi uzili inyuma wo gushakisha ahanyuranye bazajya no kuhubaka. Iby'Ubufransa, Ababiligi na Habyara byaberetse ko kugira abantu bake ali ukwaya, baliho rero barateganya henshi, ntihazabura abagira ubutwari n'ubupfura ntibabahemukire!


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Envoyé : vendredi 22 février 2019 13:20
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Cc : Aimable Rwamucyo; agnes.murebwayire@yahoo.fr; Agaculama Mu Ikibunda; zac.biampa; Brenden Russo; Sibomana Jean Bosco; Marie Madeleine BICAMUMPAKA; Chantal Karara; Christophe Tuvugishukuri; MULINDAHABI Jean-Claude; MUSABYIMANA JEAN DE DIEU; Twagirayezu Deo; Samuel Desire; Seif Omar; Senga Emmanuel; Ernest Mudage; UDAHEMUKA Eric; Francois Munyabagisha; Rwagasana Gerard; NIKOZITAMBIRWA; HEZAGIRA Emery; Innocent Twagiramungu; John Kagabo; Joseph Matata; Kota Venant; Lyar66; Michel Niyibizi; Mbaga Tuzinde; Theodore Mpatswenumugabo; Martin Bangamwabo; Vincent Ndacyayisenga; Nzinink; rudahi@hotmail.com; Skweli; Tharcisse Semana
Objet : Re: Perezida Kagame ntameze nk'abandi bayobozi ba Afurika iyo bagiye hanze -Gen Kabarebe
 


Huuum!😳🤔


Ni uko nyine ibi Kabarebe yabivuze mu kinyarwanda, n'aho ubundi byatera akantu aba bayobozi bandi ndetse no kwanga mugenzi wabo. Muvuze imyato ya perezida mutavanzemo abandi byatwara iki!?


Kandi ubu Kabarebe hagize umubaza abo bayobozi avuga bajya mu mahanga bagiye « kwisabira bashaka uko bazabaho nyuma y'ubuyobozi... » ntiyabavuga.



Si je devais recommencer ma vie, je n'y voudrais rien changer, seulement j'ouvrirais un peu plus grand les yeux (Jules Renard)

Le 22 févr. 2019 à 09:11, "liza.kez@yahoo.com" <liza.kez@yahoo.com> a écrit :

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Thursday 21 February 2019

[haguruka] RE: Intwaramiheto ziratashye!!!!

 

Turabona ko iby'Uburundi bigushishikaje cyane, kurusha n'iby'iwacu. Birunvikana, watubwiye ko aliyo wakuliye kugera 1994, niho ubona nk'iwanyu. Twe ntituli ab'Iburundi nyabuna!
Turagushimiye no kuby'amadolari: maze rero tube abagabo,  tuzibukire burundu ibyo kuliganya ngo RDF yagiye gutanga amahoro. Oyaa! Iba yabonye ikiraka cy'aho ikorera amadolari, ntakindi.

Tugaruke gato kuli Burundi yanyu. Ko yali ifite amahirwe yo gutegekwa n'abashoboye kugera 1993, kuki yasaga na Rwanda yacungwaga n'abo munnyega aliko mwiyitilira-ibyo-bakoze cyangwa se basigasiye (urugwiro, stade amahoro, imihanda, ibitaro n'amashuli, Nyungwe, Birunga, Akagera, ibyayi, etc.mukubitaho akarangi/ munagura kubera igihe bimaze cyangwa se ubumenyi isi yungutse mu myaka 25?



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Objet : RE: Intwaramiheto ziratashye!!!!
 




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On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 5:11 PM, liza.kez@yahoo.com
<liza.kez@yahoo.com> wrote:
Vuga uti "ubukene abarundi bihangiye" bishiriraho abategetsi badashoboye...
Ibyo by'ama $ n'ibanga rya polishineli...


On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 3:20 PM, kota venant
<kotakori@hotmail.com> wrote:
Aliko uzi ko musa na ba bwenge buke!

Ko ibanga ulyanitse ku karubanda se, ubwo ubona utatwicira nk'umwe wikoroze mu byondo arogota ngo wa MunyaRubengera-kazi yaba Miss ali uko abakobwa bose bashize bapfuye i Rwanda, byibukije benshi bimwe by'abakoroni bapimaga amazuru bashaka abanyaburanga n'abanyabwenge!

 - Ko uhishuye se ko ziliya za peace-keeping-missions ali idolari bakulikirayo, ntaho bihuliye no gushakira amahoro ahandi, ubu tuzongera kurata ko twohereza RDF gusakaza amahoro, duhishe inyungu tuvanamwo, dute?  Urunva se prezida w'Uburundi alize ko igihugu cye akunda gihombye bidafite ishingiro?
 
- Ko se uhishuye uko Loni idushishisha iduha ibiraka aho bibonetse hose, igihe ikumira Uburundi nta mususu, ubwo urunva tugifite ukuli bwo guseka ubukene abarundi bihanganiye nabwo kubera ko batabengutswe n'abazungu?  


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Envoyé : mercredi 20 février 2019 16:56
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Objet : Intwaramiheto ziratashye!!!!
 


Bye bye dollar: uwarose nabi burinda bucya, Nkurunziza ararira ayo kwarika!
Suprême humiliation: Loni yakodesheje Rwandair niyo ibapakiye!!😉😉😉

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[haguruka] RE: Intwaramiheto ziratashye!!!!

 

Aliko uzi ko musa na ba bwenge buke!

Ko ibanga ulyanitse ku karubanda se, ubwo ubona utatwicira nk'umwe wikoroze mu byondo arogota ngo wa MunyaRubengera-kazi yaba Miss ali uko abakobwa bose bashize bapfuye i Rwanda, byibukije benshi bimwe by'abakoroni bapimaga amazuru bashaka abanyaburanga n'abanyabwenge!

 - Ko uhishuye se ko ziliya za peace-keeping-missions ali idolari bakulikirayo, ntaho bihuliye no gushakira amahoro ahandi, ubu tuzongera kurata ko twohereza RDF gusakaza amahoro, duhishe inyungu tuvanamwo, dute?  Urunva se prezida w'Uburundi alize ko igihugu cye akunda gihombye bidafite ishingiro?
 
- Ko se uhishuye uko Loni idushishisha iduha ibiraka aho bibonetse hose, igihe ikumira Uburundi nta mususu, ubwo urunva tugifite ukuli bwo guseka ubukene abarundi bihanganiye nabwo kubera ko batabengutswe n'abazungu?  


De : liza.kez@yahoo.com <liza.kez@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : mercredi 20 février 2019 16:56
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Objet : Intwaramiheto ziratashye!!!!
 


Bye bye dollar: uwarose nabi burinda bucya, Nkurunziza ararira ayo kwarika!
Suprême humiliation: Loni yakodesheje Rwandair niyo ibapakiye!!😉😉😉

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Wednesday 20 February 2019

[haguruka] RE: Iyo ahantu bose bahuriza ku kintu kimwe byitwa iki?

 

Nuko, nuko nyabuna! Aliko muzitonde ntimuzakukumbe byose, kugera naho bazadusunikira na twa bacilles de peste tuyogoza Antananarivo  http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2018/09/18/97001-20180918FILWWW00161-la-peste-fait-ses-deux-premiers-morts-de-la-saison-a-madagascar.php  ! 

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Envoyé : mercredi 20 février 2019 12:58
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Objet : Re: Iyo ahantu bose bahuriza ku kintu kimwe byitwa iki?
 
Iyo abantu bose... 


On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 12:51 PM, liza.kez@yahoo.com
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