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Tuesday, 23 October 2018

[haguruka] Re: Rwanda: Ese abahutu bashyizwe imbere koko muri gouvernement nshya?

 

@Rwagasana:
Byaba byiza uzanye izo statistiques noneho tukaganira dufite aho duhera. 
Guhakana uhereye ku myumvire yawe ngo wumva ko bidashoboka nta gaciro bifite. 
Igikenewe ni ingingo zifatika.
Reba uko byari byifashe muri 2008 kandi ndahamya ko muri 2018 byarushijeho gusubira rudubi:
ETHNICITY IN RWANDA -- WHO GOVERNS THE COUNTRY?
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08KIGALI525_a.html

On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:24 PM, rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com> wrote:

Umuntu arihanukiriye arandika ngo: 

Ikigo gishizwe statistique mu Rda kiramutse gitangaje imibare uko iri (abakozi ba leta, abakozi b'ibigo byigenga, abanyeshuri bafite bourse za leta, abaturage bahabwa inguzanyo za banki, ibiraka bya leta, etc) byagaragarira buri wese ko abahutu (representant plus de 85% de la population) nta na 10% bafite muri ibi byose.EmojiEmojiEmoji

 La simple logique yakwereka ko bidashoboka. Nuwabishaka ntibyakunda. Ubu muri 2018 ???
Soyons raisonable 

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Rwagasana Gerard
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On Monday, 22 October 2018, 15:05:58 EET, kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com> wrote:


Bavandimwe, tubateye Yambu.

Twe turemeranwa 100% na bwana Buregeya. Ntabwo tubona abahatana ngo baralinganiza, ngo barasaranganya, icyo baba bashya barura. Abahatana/abahatanye ngo baralinganyiza bibwira ko bagira neza ahubwo byabakuruliye/ bibakurulira abanzi babi, babasukaho amalike igihe bageze mu rwabya. Ibi byagaragaye mu ngoma zacu zose: abatoneshejwe cyangwa se abazamuwe hitwaje ilinganiza/irondakoko ntacyo byamaliye abanyarwanda, kimwe n'abasunikaga babajyana ku meza. Ahubwo byabyaye amahasa: Cyami yangwa urunuka, republika mhutu zisarura uko, republika iliho ubu nayo irabira ibyuya!

Tubona byaruta kuzibukira, tukareka uwigiliye amahirwe agafata ibyo Immana imugoboreye, naho baba abo mu bwoko bumwe cyangwa se akarere kamwe, byose ni kimwe, ni abanyarwanda: bapfa kuba bashyizweho hakulikijwe ubushobozi n'ubumuntu, mbese indangagaciro nyazo, nta bucabiranya. Rwose uyobora atali hobyo, ntabe yaramunzwe n'itonesha n'ikinyoma, loi de distribution normle yatuma abemererwa kwiga kimwe n'abashoboye mu tuzi bava mu turere twose, mu moko yose. Yakwisunga randomisation methods kandi abize imibare ubu ni benshi ku bulyo atavuga ngo yabuze ababimufashamwo.  
Urugero: Umwalimu mwiza (un bon prof.) w'umutwa ukomoka Ikibungu (Kirehe) yahabwa ishuli muli Rusizi, akalyigisha neza atareba ab'iwabo cyangwa se abo mu bwoko bwe: apfa kuba yunva kandi afite indangagaciro zo kurerera Urwanda rwose. Ibi nibyo kandi byakagombye kuranga civil servant wese, aho akorera hose
Aliko niba polotiki ishingiye kw'irenganya, ubucabiranya n'urwango, nta gisubizo cyaboneka kuko sciences zipingwa aho kwifashishwa. 
 


De : haguruka@yahoogroups.com <haguruka@yahoogroups.com> de la part de Nzi Nink nzinink@yahoo.com [haguruka] <haguruka@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé : samedi 20 octobre 2018 15:38
À : Dhr Group
Objet : [haguruka] Re: Rwanda: Ese abahutu bashyizwe imbere koko muri gouvernement nshya?
 
 
"Njye nemera ko ubwoko buriho nta n'aho buzajya.. Ariko ubushyira imbere aho gushyira imbere ubumuntu n'ubushobozi bwa buri wese ahubwo agashakiriza mu moko, burya aba yabuze ubwenge mba nkuroga", Buregeya.

Gushyira imbere ubumuntu n'ubushobozi bwa buri wese, nta muntu utabishima, ariko se byashoboka bite mu Rwanda, mu gihe ibyo umuntu abona buri munsi bimwibutsa irondakoko n'ihezwa rya bamwe mu buzima bwose bw'igihugu?

Bigaragarira buri wese ugera mu Rwanda nyuma y'imyaka myinshi atarubamo ko abahutu ari mbarwa mu nzego zose z'akazi, haba ku bakubura ikibuga cy'indege n'imihanda kugeza ku bakozi bo mu biro bya leta, bigo byigenga, n'imiryango mpuzamahanga.

Ikigo gishizwe statistique mu Rda kiramutse gitangaje imibare uko iri (abakozi ba leta, abakozi b'ibigo byigenga, abanyeshuri bafite bourse za leta, abaturage bahabwa inguzanyo za banki, ibiraka bya leta, etc) byagaragarira buri wese ko abahutu (representant plus de 85% de la population) nta na 10% bafite muri ibi byose.

None se tuvuge ko abahutu nta bushobozi bafite muri rusange? 

Birazwi ko muri rusange abahutu nta mikoro (pouvoir d'achat) bafite muri ruriya Rda. Ibi bishimangira ko abayora uRda hari gahunda bagenderaho igamije gupyinagaza/ kurimbura rubanda nyamwinshi mu gihe isigasira/ ibungabunga ubusugire bw'agatsiko nyamuke  kikubiye ibyiza byose by'igihugu.

Gushyira imbere ubushobozi bwa buri wese ni byiza, ariko tugomba no gutekereza uko bigenda mu gihe abafite ubwo bushobozi mu nzego zose baruta kure umubare w'imyanya ikenewe. Ibi nibyo tubona mu Rwanda, aho amazi asigaye aba make agaharirwa imfizi.

Muri make, hari aho ibintu bigera, iringaniza rikaba ngombwa, hagamijwe ubusugire bw'abenegihugu. 

Muri Amerika, dufite ibyo bita, affirmative action: an action or policy favoring those who tend to suffer from discrimination, especially in relation to employment or education; positive discrimination.

On Oct 19, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Ali Ahmad BUREGEYA NDAYISABA bundahalb@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 
Rwamucyo, njye simvuga kwikuramo ubwoko kuko nta hantu butaba. Ahandi barabubwirana ntibigire icyo bitwara. Icyo mvuga cy'umwanda ni ukubura amaso abona. Aho kubona ko umuntu ashoboye ukibaza ubwoko arimo. Rugamba yabivuze neza ati :"Uronda ubwoko cyangwa cyangwa akarere burya aba ashaka kugucura". Ibyo bivuze ko n'uburenganyiriza abandi cyangwa urenganya ubwoko nawe aba ari nta bwenge. 

Njye rero nemera ko ubwoko buriho nta n'aho buzajya. Ariko ubushyira imbere aho gushyira imbere ubumuntu n'ubushobozi bwa buri wese ahubwo agashakiriza mu moko, burya aba yabuze ubwenge mba nkuroga.

Ng'icyo rero icyoretse u Rwanda kuva rwatangira gutegekwa n'abami b'abatutsi, ugakomeza ku baperezida b'abahutu ukagera no ku b'abatutsi. Nta n'umwe washyize imbere ubumuntu n'ubushobozi, ngo ushoboye ariwe uhabwa inshingano. Niyo mpamvu nta tuze u Rwanda rugira. Dukwiriye rero gutsinda uyu muzimu.

Abaterekera rero nibashyireho ingufu. Abasenga nabo bajye ku mavi. Buri wese yambaza abo yemera ariko abanyarwanda bimike "ubumuntu n'ubushobozi".. Nta yindi ntsinzi ku gihugu cyacu.

Mukomere




Work, research and discover to make the world better livable for all! Even the poor!!!!
Respect others to be respected! Even the poor!!!!
Fight against injustice to restore Justice! Even for the poor!!!! DON'T BE A PROBLEM FOR THE NATURE AND ECOSYSTEM


Ir.Ndayisaba Ali Ahmed BUREGEYA
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MSc in Urban Planning and Management
Tel: +31684479930
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Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 15:37:21 UTC+2, Aimable Rwamucyo aimable_r@hotmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :


 
Buregeya nkubaze! Waba uri umuntu warangiza ukazira ubwoko noneho ukabwikuramo kandi abandi ari bwo bakubonamo bakanakubaramo?

Les intègres et compétents nibahanyanyaze basubize?
AR

De : Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> de la part de Ali Ahmad BUREGEYA NDAYISABA bundahalb@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>
Envoyé : 19 octobre 2018 00:47:36
À : Democracy_Human_Rights; Yves Mutabaruka Mutabarukay@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights]
Objet : Re: *DHR* Rwanda: Ese abahutu bashyizwe imbere koko muri gouvernement nshya?
 


 
Ikibazo gipfuye cyaneeeee!
Mureke kwimika ubwoko. Twakabaye kuba ubu twibaza niba hashyizwe mu myanya ababishoboye aho kwibaza niba abahutu, abatwa cyangwa abatutsi bashyizwe imbere. 
Sinumva umuntu muzima ugitekereza atyo ku buryo ikibazo cyose akibona muri Hutu, Tutsi cg Twa.

Ndabyumva indwara z'amateka ntabwo zipfa gukira ariko abantu bagakuze kuko imyaka irenga 20 umuntu aba amaze kuba ingimbi cg umwangavu.

Mukomere




Work, reseach and discover to make the world better livable for all! Even the poor!!!!
Respect others to be respected!Evene the poor!!!!
Fight against injustice to restore Justice! Even for the poor!!!! DON'T BE A PROBLEM FOR THE NATURE AND ECOSYSTEM


Ir.Ndayisaba Ali Ahmed BUREGEYA
Civil Engineer (Expert in Construction)
MSc in Urban Planning and Management
Tel: +31684479930
       +250-788308024




Le vendredi 19 octobre 2018 à 14:23:00 UTC+2, Yves Mutabaruka Mutabarukay@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :


 

Isesengura ku mpinduka: Isenyuka ry'akazu ka 

MUSONI James,KABAREBE, Jack NZIZA na GASANA Emmanuel) kafataga ibyemezo. Ese abahutu bashyizwe imbere koko?


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