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Tuesday, 21 August 2018

[haguruka] RE: RE: Uyu mugabo aravuga ibyo yabonye!

 

Prof G. Rwagasana, turabashima.. 


Erega turaganira hali abadusoma benshi, ntabwo tuli muli ya mfuruka ya bake mwashakaga. 

Niba rero hali icyo twavuze gifutamye, ubwo abadusoma baratugaya, mwebwe babashime: ahali abagabo basobanutse ntihapfa abandi


Turashidikanya cyane niba arguments (ibyiyunviro) nka "Uzi ko utoroshye? Uri agahebuzo kabisa" zungura byinshi abafite inyota yo kumenya neza iby'iwacu. Twebwe turacyemera ko Rwanda itazubakwa n'imbunda, mabuso, ibitutsi n'iterabwoba, ahubwo izubakwa no gushishoza, tukajya mu mizi dusobanukirwa n'ikidutera uburwayi bwatuzonze mu myaka irenze 100 yose ishize, niyo mhanvu na ba F. Munyabagisha badusaba kwimakaza Illuminatio et salus populi

Ubwo burwayi bwatuzonze bwanakuruye ibibi, twese namwe mulimwo, bidushengura umutima, alibyo jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'imfu z'abahutu tutazi uko bazita/bazazita. 

Nyabuna mutubabalire, kuko twe twilinda biliya bya patriotes: twunva nta munyagihugu wakagombye kwisihinga ngo akunda igihugu kurusha undi. Uwo abajigitiye ingoma bakamiye aramya abamugabulira (ubwo bikitilirwa igihugu) nyine, naho uwo bahemukiya akabarwanya, ndetse akagera naho abahunga, bikitwa ko ahunze igihugu. Ibikabyo by'iwacu bituma tubita inyanga-rwanda. Ibi abanyarwanda twese turabizi (utararuhunga umengo yaba umuti ahubwo), aliko ntawabisobanuza ko abanyarwanda banga Urwanda, bigatuma haremwa aba-patriotes barwo.  Mudusuhulize jenerali Kayumba Nyamwasa, umwe wafashe igihugu hamwe n'abandi muli Yuli 1994! 


Prof G. Rwagasana, niba rero mubonye ntacyo mufite mwakongera kubwira abandi, mwakwicecekera ntavebo. Aliko twe ntibyatubuza kwikomereza kuganira, bibaye ngombwa. 




De : rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : lundi 20 août 2018 20:44
À : cliir Antoine; Francois Munyabagisha; jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com; Michel Niyibizi; J.C. Tuvugishukuri; kota venant
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Objet : Re: RE: Uyu mugabo aravuga ibyo yabonye!
 
.... Abatsinze binyuze muli coup d'etat bafata ameza, nabo baregwa kwihalira.. Baza guteranirwa n'abalyojejwe ubwo busambo muli 1959-61 no muli 1973, aliyo ntambara-nkundura twabonye 1990-2000. !!!!!!!

Iyo ntambara nkundura yawe uyubitse kuri jenoside yakorewe abatutsi igahitana abahutu patriotes !!!!

Uzi ko utoroshye? Uri agahebuzo kabisa
Ndabona atari ngombwa kugira icyo wongera

Rwagasana Gerard
P.O. Box 4301 Kigali - Rwanda
Mob: 250-788460976 
Home: 250 255104911
mailto: gerwaga@yahoo.com
  


The Secret: Thoughts become Things
 


On Monday, 20 August 2018, 16:04:10 EET, kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com> wrote:


Turashima Prof G. Rwagasana, uhamya ko avuga ikinyarwanda. Kubijyanye n'igishinwa cyacu, nguwo umwandiko ukuwemwo udukosa muli attachment. 

Niba kandi Prof avuga ko tutabona/tudasobanura kimwe amagorwa agwira abanyarwanda, uko gusobanya kuzashira igihe twese tuzemera umuzi wayo magorwa: aliwo ubusambo n'inda nini, bituma turwanira ubutegetsi buduha imbaraga/ubushobozi byo kunyanganya/gutekinika no kwikubira (ingoma z'igitugu).  Ibi bihembera urwango, rutugeza mu bwicanyi bubi. Guhana ubwo bwicanyi wimakaza ubusambo ni nko guhoma umufunzo aliko utishe utunyabuzima (germes bacteriens) tuwalitsemwo. 


Agahugu kacu ni gato, karakennye; tukaba benshi dushakira icyo kubaho mu bishoboka byose, ibyiza n'ibibi. Ibi tubimazemo imyaka irenze 100. 

Ubwami bwifashishije itekinika lyo kuvukana imbuto. Umukoroni aje, noneho akirukana bamwe ngo ba Rukara bacumuye, abandi bahise babyinira ku rukoma, bati Yego, yego, birukane, utagabire gusa imyanya bali bafite. Bigeze muli za 1950-1962, bamwe bali bahejwe ku mugati wa Rwanda babona imbaraga, barahaguruka baratsinda, abali bikubiye isahani barabilyozwa. Abatsinze bageze ku meza nabo bashaka kwihalira, bibyara invururu hagati ya kiga-nduga, bamwe bihali mugihe cy'ubwami bicecekeye.

Abatsinze binyuze muli coup d'etat bafata ameza, nabo baregwa kwihalira. Baza guteranirwa n'abalyojejwe ubwo busambo muli 1959-61 no muli 1973, aliyo ntambara-nkundura twabonye 1990-2000. Abayitsinze nabo bati Yes, ni kwikubira byose ntakundi ubwo n'umuzungu avuze ko abo mu gice cy'abatsinzwe bose ali babi, twe n'abacu akatugira beza. Ni aho tuli. Ni nabyo umuhanga Dr A. Kagame yavugishe umwami mu Ndyoheshabirayi  "Mutara ati imyanya sinyitanga kuko nshaka kuyikubira"; abonye ko asebye, arahindura, ati "bambe umwami ntabwo agabura". Ni ubwo busambo bwatumye Umukuru w'abashefu nawe avuga ijambo, ati [Mojoro] nashaka atware inka atsotsobe aliko agabure indyoheshabirayi.


Prof G. Rwagasana nguwo umufunzo unutsa ibya Rwanda, ukica ya Illuminatio et salus populi bwana F. Munyabagisha atwibutsa buli gihe, ugatuma abahanga bavuga amateshwa, basa n'abatsa umuliro bajunditse amazi. Ubwo abaturage bo baracanganyurwa, bakitwara ku batekinika nka bamwe babona ibicu bibunga bakavuza akaruru ngo  "Hee, abaramu baradutuye".  Mudusuhulize T. Karugarama wakije muli Guardian atajunditse ahagije, agashya! 

Prof, tuboherereje n'iki kiganirohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XLN0Xd7wXI, mucyunve, ejo mutazarutanga imbere y'abana basanze babarusha iby'iwacu. 



De : rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : mercredi 15 août 2018 00:05
À : kota venant; cliir Antoine; Francois Munyabagisha; jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com; Michel Niyibizi; J.C. Tuvugishukuri
Cc : Jean Paul Turayishimye; Lyarahoze Samuel; PAUL RUSESABAGINA Email; ITAHUKA IJWI RYIHURIRO NYARWANDA; Zac Biampa; Anastase Gasana; Faustin Twagiramungu; Ijwi Ryarubanda; Kanyamibwa Jack Mail; Nkiko Nsengimana; Rutihunza Théobald; Veritasinfo Ngoga; Innocent Twagiramungu; Abdallah Akishuli; Jambo Asbl; Joseph Sebarenzi; Pierre Foucher; Mbonigaba Ismaïl; marie kampororo; Semahoro; sinumvayabo; Célestin Kabanda; samcyprien; Olivier Rukundo; Psimberakuri; udaheric@gmail.com; kagomashenge; Inuma News; yonkad; kalebucyusa01; SHEMA; Ruhorahoza Theophile; Hakiza Canada; Jmarie Micombero; Perpétue Muramutse; Rudasingwa Theo Email; Bona Sin; jeangatera; Bihibindi .; Rwaka Email; Intabaza Info; Abel Bangamurabo; Alexis Semana; Etienne Karekezi VOA; chkayihura; Gerald Gahima; Imanzi Pdp; Darius Murinzi; niyopaci; Lafiancee Armee; Biramahire salvator; Maurice Niwese; mugabo. frank13; katarypa; amakuruyurwanda; Pascal Kalinganire; ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk; Nsabimana Joseph; Pierre Nzabagerageza; Semahoro; Emasozera; Iyamuremye David; Cyprien Mugabo; Emmanuel Ntabajyana; higiro higiro; emmanuel habyarimana; Joseph Ngarambe; Tharcisse Semana; Ismaïl Mbonigaba; Samuel Desire; Eug Ndah; Tuzatsinda Aimable; Jonathanmusonera; Paul Umusaza; MINANI Jean Marie Vianney; Alfred Muyango
Objet : RE: Uyu mugabo aravuga ibyo yabonye!
 
Ndakubwira ikinyarwanda ukansubiza igishinwa. kumvikana biracyari kure ariko nta kwiheba wabona un jour tuvuze rumwe. Pour le moment contentons nous de respecter les opinions differentes des notres et coexistons pacifiquement sur les forums (fora pour les latinistes). Good luck


On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 16:34, kota venant
<kotakori@hotmail.com> wrote:

Turabashimye prof G. Rwagasana aliko reka tubasabe maze tuganilire abandi bose badusoma, twoye kwihererana mu mfuruka kuko uwanga amazimwe abandwa habona! 

Iki gisubizo muduhaye kiradutangaje, kuko gisa nikilimwo yego na oya bibangikiranye. Reka tubibereke: 
Ntaho twanditse (muli iyi posting )ubwoko bw'abishwe muli Ruhengeri na Gisenyi nkuko mwebwe muhise mutangaza ko ali abahutu. 
Twavuze abasilikari babonwe muli ubwo bwicanyi, tunakubwira ko bamwe muli abo basilikare bali hafi yawe ku bulyo bakubwira imhanvu babikoze, bisubiza aho watubazaga imhanvu. 

Ukandika ngo ntabwo bashize, barahali benshi, nyamara amasasu na main d'oeuvre bitarabuze. Aha usa nuvuga ko abandi bose bagize ibyago byo kwicwamwo bose bashira. History yerekana ko atalibyo. Kandi wowe ubwawe urahindukira ukabitsindagira aha ugira uti "Ntakintu gikoranwa urwango rwahumishije abakifuza gishobora gutsinda. Niyo mpamvu nyamukuru abajenosidaires bananiwe kugera kuntego yo kumara abatutsi n'abahutu patriotes...  ".

Imilyango yo muli ayo ma prefegitura yahekuwe irahali,  ndetse n'amalisti y'abishwe arahali, yagaragazwa ubutegetsi bwemeye ko bikorwa. Nyabuna mureke, nta manyanga, dukunde bose (abahutu, abatutsi n'abatwa), twunve akababaro ka bose, aho guhembera bimwe byabyaye za mise au point, manifeste de bahutu 1957,  etc., bigakurulira ubwami n'abaturage b'inzirakarengane. Ibi nabyo urahindukira ukabihamya aho ugira uti ... gutanga ibitekerezo byubaka abanyarwanda aho bari hose bagashyira hamwe muri lutte yo guteza imbere imibereho myiza ya bose. Ibi unasaba kandi ntaho bizilikira umuntu ku bwoko ubu n'ubu, kwi ishyaka ili n'ili, ku muprezida uyu n'uyu na cyane cyane ku itekinika ili n'ili, ngo Rwanda ikunde imererwa neza! 

Prof G. Rwagana, mwacyo tukajya twihangana, tugatwara urumuli Immana yaturagije uko bikwiye koko, tukilinda bimwe bya ba bashefu bo mu Ndyoheshabirayi ya A.Kagame, bamaze guhaga maze umukuru mulibo ati " Uwabwira Mojoro ijambo: nashaka atware inka atsotsobe (azitware zose) aliko agabure indyoheshabirayi". Erega ubwo ubusambo butumye binyaga, bubibagije abagore, abana n'abavandimwe basigaye imuhira izo batanze zalindaga inzara! 


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De : rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : mardi 14 août 2018 13:42
À : kotakori@hotmail.com; jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com; udaheric@gmail.com; ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk
Objet : Re: RE: Uyu mugabo aravuga ibyo yabonye!
 
Urakoze kunsubiza ariko ibyo bamwe mwandika wagira ngo abantu b'ibyaduka baje mu Rwanda  bazanywe no kumara abahutu maze birara mu baturage barabatemagura barabicaaaaaaaaaa !! Nta mpamvu barabica bananirwa kubamara (kuko bagihari ndetse benshi cyane). Ubwo babuze amasasu na main d'oeuvre !!! 
Comme disait feu Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendo wa Zabanga: OU EST LE SERIEUX dans tout ca ????
Izo nonsens ninde wazemera atari umuntu wiremeye un monde imaginaire sinistre yiberamo na za phantasmes lugubres .... Oya muve muri iryo curaburindi mugaruke ibuntu. Njya mbona abantu bandika ibyo bifuza ndetse batubwira ko ari realite nkumirwa cyane cyane abantu bize baminuje.
Ntakintu gikoranwa urwango rwahumishije abakifuza gishobora gutsinda. Niyo mpamvu nyamukuru abajenosidaires bananiwe kugera kuntego yo kumara abatutsi n'abahutu patriotes. Niko bimeze. Abemera Imana bavuga ko Imana iha leurs victimes imbaraga zidasanzwe zo kubatsinda. Abandi bavuga ko l'energie positive de l'Univers iha imbaraga zidasanzwe les victimes ikanayobya imitwe des tueurs. Uko wabyita kose c'est ce qui s'est passe au Rwanda, en Allemagne muri 1945, au Vietnam .... mbega exemples ni nyinshi muri histoire de l'Humanite. Le probleme nuko hari abantu batajya biga amasomo ya Histoire y'abantu kuri iyi si, ahubwo bagafunga ubwonko bakanga kumva... bagahitamo kwibera dans un monde chimerique , bakabimenyera leur nouveau mode de vie...!Je vous souhaite yo kubivamo kabisa energie ukoresha mu kwanga abatutsi, FPR, Kagame ... ukayikoresha mu gutanga ibitekerezo byubaka abanyarwanda aho bari hose bagashyira hamwe muri lutte yo guteza imbere imibereho myiza ya bose.
Imana igufashe

998, mu Rwanda habayeho icyo Leta yise "INTAMBARA Y'ABACENGEZI". Iyo ntambara yibasiye cyane cyane Intara y'Amajyaruguru y'igihugu ahahoze hitwa ...



De : kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>
Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2018 16:54
À : cliir Antoine; Francois Munyabagisha; jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com; Michel Niyibizi; J.C. Tuvugishukuri; gerwaga@yahoo.com
Cc : Jean Paul Turayishimye; Lyarahoze Samuel; PAUL RUSESABAGINA Email; ITAHUKA IJWI RYIHURIRO NYARWANDA; Zac Biampa; Anastase Gasana; Faustin Twagiramungu; Ijwi Ryarubanda; Kanyamibwa Jack Mail; Nkiko Nsengimana; Rutihunza Théobald; Veritasinfo Ngoga; Innocent Twagiramungu; Abdallah Akishuli; Jambo Asbl; Joseph Sebarenzi; Pierre Foucher; Mbonigaba Ismaïl; marie kampororo; Semahoro; sinumvayabo; Célestin Kabanda; samcyprien; Olivier Rukundo; Psimberakuri; udaheric@gmail.com; kagomashenge; Inuma News; yonkad; kalebucyusa01; SHEMA; Ruhorahoza Theophile; Hakiza Canada; Jmarie Micombero; Perpétue Muramutse; Rudasingwa Theo Email; Bona Sin; jeangatera; Bihibindi .; Rwaka Email; Intabaza Info; Abel Bangamurabo; Alexis Semana; Etienne Karekezi VOA; chkayihura; Gerald Gahima; Imanzi Pdp; Darius Murinzi; niyopaci; Lafiancee Armee; Biramahire salvator; Maurice Niwese; mugabo. frank13; katarypa; amakuruyurwanda; Pascal Kalinganire; ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk; Nsabimana Joseph; Pierre Nzabagerageza; Semahoro; Emasozera; Iyamuremye David; Cyprien Mugabo; Emmanuel Ntabajyana; higiro higiro; emmanuel habyarimana; Joseph Ngarambe; Tharcisse Semana; Ismaïl Mbonigaba; Samuel Desire; Eug Ndah; Tuzatsinda Aimable; Jonathanmusonera; Paul Umusaza; MINANI Jean Marie Vianney; Alfred Muyango
Objet : RE: Uyu mugabo aravuga ibyo yabonye!
 

Komera Prof  Rwagasana kandi turagushimye rwose.


None se nturabona abagira ikibazo bakakibwirana, aliko batagishyira ku karubanda? Ni uko ahali utabaye mu Rwanda,  naho ubundi uba warabibonye mu gihe bamwe babyiniraga Habyarimana aliko batamukunda, ahubwo bakabibwirana mu cyayenge bifuza icyamubakiza. Urunva abandi, natwe tulimwo, tutakora nk'abo se? 


Naho icyo abo baturage ba Ruhengeri na Gisenyi bazize wakibaza baliya basilikari babigizemwo uruhari, baracyaliho kandi abenshi wenda munasangira ka bier cyangwa se wine. Baguha inkuru nyayo, bitali utu duke bwana E. Maniliho ashuniye Insamilizi Ubumwe. Cyangwa se ubwire ingoma itinyuke itange uburenganzira butali nyirareshwa, maze urebe ukuntu imfubyi n'abapfakazi bose bajunjamye basohoka, maze bakagaragaza amabi ateye ubwoba bazi/babonye,  yakorewe iwabo!

 



De : rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2018 16:01
À : kotakori@hotmail.com; cliir Antoine; Francois Munyabagisha; jeanmarie.ndagijimana@gmail.com; haguruka@yahoogroups.com; Michel Niyibizi; J..C. Tuvugishukuri
Cc : Jean Paul Turayishimye; Lyarahoze Samuel; PAUL RUSESABAGINA Email; ITAHUKA IJWI RYIHURIRO NYARWANDA; Zac Biampa; Anastase Gasana; Faustin Twagiramungu; Ijwi Ryarubanda; Kanyamibwa Jack Mail; Nkiko Nsengimana; Rutihunza Théobald; Veritasinfo Ngoga; Innocent Twagiramungu; Abdallah Akishuli; Jambo Asbl; Joseph Sebarenzi; Pierre Foucher; Mbonigaba Ismaïl; marie kampororo; Semahoro; sinumvayabo; Célestin Kabanda; samcyprien; Olivier Rukundo; Psimberakuri; udaheric@gmail.com; kagomashenge; Inuma News; yonkad; kalebucyusa01; SHEMA; Ruhorahoza Theophile; Hakiza Canada; Jmarie Micombero; Perpétue Muramutse; Rudasingwa Theo Email; Bona Sin; jeangatera; Bihibindi .; Rwaka Email; Intabaza Info; Abel Bangamurabo; Alexis Semana; Etienne Karekezi VOA; chkayihura; Gerald Gahima; Imanzi Pdp; Darius Murinzi; niyopaci; Lafiancee Armee; Biramahire salvator; Maurice Niwese; mugabo. frank13; katarypa; amakuruyurwanda; Pascal Kalinganire; ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk; Nsabimana Joseph; Pierre Nzabagerageza; Semahoro; Emasozera; Iyamuremye David; Cyprien Mugabo; Emmanuel Ntabajyana; higiro higiro; emmanuel habyarimana; Joseph Ngarambe; Tharcisse Semana; Ismaïl Mbonigaba; Samuel Desire; Eug Ndah; Tuzatsinda Aimable; Jonathanmusonera; Paul Umusaza; MINANI Jean Marie Vianney; Alfred Muyango
Objet : Re: Uyu mugabo aravuga ibyo yabonye!
 
Ikibazo: nonese ko utari uhari ibyo wabibwiwe nande ko wumva abasigaye badatinyuka kuvuga. ese niba aribyo abo bantu bazize iki?  va mu maranga mutima uduhe inkuru nyayo. Uraba ukoze


On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 15:37, kota venant
<kotakori@hotmail.com> wrote:

Bavandimwe ba Radiyo Ubumwe, koko muka-Rwarakabije bamwiciye iwabo aho avuka, abaturage babizi neza barabivuze.

 

Jenerali Kayumba Nyamwasa arabizi neza, ku mutima we azi ibyo yakoreye ako karere nka chef w'izo operations, kimwe nabo yali afatanyije nabo nk'abali colonel Mubaraka Muganga, Major Rwigamba, n'uwali uzwi ka kazina ka David boze amaraso iyo za Gisenyi na Ruhengerei. Abarokotse ubwo bwicanyi balicecekeye, kuko nta burenganzira babona bwo kubililimba ku karubanda nk'abandi shenge. 


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