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[haguruka.com] Re: *DHR* Re: Joseph Ngarambe: "abavuga ... EMPIRE HIMA ni abasazi". Injiji ziba koko mu bize.

 

  Rwagasana,

 It's no good crying over spilt milk. TOO LATE NOW TO THINK ABOUT YOUR BULLSHIT. Ababazi babyita gutekinika.
I can hardly believe my eyes any more IN YOUR/RPF BULLSHIT. it's all so fucking contrived, shallow and meaningless.


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It doesn't depend on you whether or not I exist. If you don't like me, don't accept my invitation and don't invite me to come and see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on my side, I will bury you.
Jean-Christophe, Utrecht,April 3rd, 2004.
Nothing but Human rights. We Will Win ! 
 





From: rwagasana gerard <gerwaga@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: *DHR* Re: Joseph Ngarambe: "abavuga ... EMPIRE HIMA ni abasazi". Injiji ziba koko mu bize.

Iminsi myiza twese ya Noheli n'Umwaka mushya. Dufate ingamba nshya twese zo kuzaba plus tolerant, plus positifs et plus intelligents mubyo dukora byose, tuzarusheho gukunda abanyarwanda bose n'u Rwanda rwacu.
 
Rwagasana Gerard
P.O. Box 4301 Kigali - Rwanda
Mob: 250-788460976 
Home: 250 255104911
mailto: gerwaga@yahoo.com
  


The Secret: Thoughts become Things
 


On Thursday, 24 December 2015, 17:13, Mbaga Tuzinde <tuzindembaga@yahoo.fr> wrote:


Abantu (abanyarwanda) bafite ikibazo cya "nduga na kiga" ni ababuze des arguments (ibitekerezo) bakihisha inyuma y'iyo ngirwa kibazo... abandi ni abategetsi cyangwa se abandi banyapolitike baba bashaka guteranya abanyarwanda kugirango babone uko babategeka (diviser pour règner)

Ngibyo nguko "abanyenduga n'abakiga ntacyo bapfa" bitabuza ko umukiga yagirana ikibazo n'umunyenduga cyangwa undi mukiga nkuko n'umunyenduga yakigiranana n'undi munyenduga
 
Mbaga Tuzinde


Le Mercredi 23 décembre 2015 18h38, "Lyarahoze Samuel lyar66@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> a écrit :


 
- Ese ni umuvuno (strategie)-mu-ntambara wa RPF yacengeye abanyenduga bagahinduka ibikoresho byayo kimwe na bamwe mu bakiga batashakaga ko Habyarimana ategeka ubuziraherezo?
Aha abashobora batuyamba batanga ibyiyunviro byabo.


Le Vendredi 18 décembre 2015 15h03, kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com> a écrit :


Bavandimwe mwese, muduhe akalyo dusubize ibyo tubajijwe ntakulya iminwa. 
 
Ngo "iyi  "Twa"", "Tu" ni wowe ni nde na nde?" 
Natwe tuti ni bamwe bali i  Bujumbura, ni bamwe bali i Bruseli baherekeje abasinye amatangazo bose, ni bamwe bali Arusha bose bandika za Accords d'Arusha, ni bamwe bali Ikinihira bose baherekeje abasinyaga; etc.. Aba bose bali abanyarwanda baduserukiye twe dusigaye mu ngo n'intoki zacu, bakora rero mw'izina lyacu. Keretse tugobetse bimwe byo guhendana kwacu, tukabigarama! 

Ngo " Abo bakiga n'abanyenduga bangana urunuka uvuga bitwa nde na nde ?"
Ngaho da! Nyabuna intumwa cyangwa se usomye ibyanditse ararabirwa ntiyicwa. Mbasabe rero mwigore maze musome igitabo cya Prof Guichaoua. Ni amapaji hafi 640 mu ma tomes 3 (1 na 2 ni 3 ya za annexes). Icyo gitabo cyitwa "Butare la prefecture rebelle. 2004" niyo version twabonye. Uzakirangiza ntabone ruliya rwango hagati ya Kiga-Nduga, ntabone aho bavuze bati "plutot FPR que les bakiga"; "opposition aux gens du nord" kimwe n'ibindi byinshi, kandi ibyo mu gihe Rwanda ili mu ntambara, ubwo azatugaye.  
Icyokora Guichaoua ntiyasobanuye neza inkomoko y'inzangano kiga-nduga kuko niba yaravumbuye urwango mu banyenduga nta shiti haliho n'urwo mu bakiga. Ni principe izwi ya "action-reaction". Twe twifuza ko kiga-nduga byasabana, ubwo bombi bakemera bakavugisha ukuli ntibihishe mu buhendanyi n'ikinyoma byabaye umuco-nyarwanda (reba P.S. ihera), bakababalirana bitali ibya nyirarureshwa. Erega ibi nibyo sir Kagame yavuze ati abahutu ni biyunga ubwo tuzahita dusangira ubutegetsi shenge! 
 
Naho ibyo guhabwa/gukora "drones n'ibibuga byazo" byo ntacyo tubivugaho, ubwo ni ubwenge burenze bwa HE. Ahubwo azibuke asabe/ashyireho na za Teleferiques.
Gusa tumenye ko ufite Se utunze nyinshi amwaka iyo agabira n'umuraje limwe, yaba agiye gukwa agahabwa amacumi ashorera, igihe uwikineye utagira Se nkuwo arongora ntabone n'umuha ayo acira umugeni! 
 
P.S. Inzangano kiga-nduga zaba zaraturutse he kandi lyali?
- Ese ni ku ngoma ya cyami na decret Mortehan byanyaze abahinza/abatware b'abakiga, bigasuka abo bakiga mu buretwa bwakoreshwaga n'abatware baturutse mu Nduga?
- Ese ni ku ngoma ya Kayibanda yatesheje umurongo ba Bicamumhaka igamije guhindura constitution ngo ubutegetsi bugume iwe mu Nduga, kuko ubundi bali barakoranye neza kuva 1959 kugeza za 1970?
- Ese ni ku ngoma ya Habyarimana wahilitse ba Kayibanda yifashishije igisoda kiganjemo abaKiga, bigatuma abanyenduga babona ko barushijwe imbaraga muli politiki ituma abantu babona udutubutse ku kagati gato ka Rwanda?
- Ese ni umuvuno (strategie)-mu-ntambara wa RPF yacengeye abanyenduga bagahinduka ibikoresho byayo kimwe na bamwe mu bakiga batashakaga ko Habyarimana ategeka ubuziraherezo?
Aha abashobora batuyamba batanga ibyiyunviro byabo.





Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 15:23:34 +0000
From: gerwaga@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: Joseph Ngarambe: "abavuga ... EMPIRE HIMA ni abasazi". Injiji ziba koko mu bize.

 
Rwagasana Gerard
P.O. Box 4301 Kigali - Rwanda
Mob: 250-788460976 
Home: 250 255104911
mailto: gerwaga@yahoo.com
  


The Secret: Thoughts become Things
 


On Thursday, 17 December 2015, 16:38, Francois Munyabagisha <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> wrote:


Nyakubahwa Kota, nawe ubishatse wansobanulira iyi "twa" "tu"
, ni wowe na nde na nde?
Abo bskiga n'abanyenduga bangana urunuka uvuga bitwa nde na nde ? Ubu ko umuntu yakomeza guhembera ibyokatsi nk'abavumvu, nako abasaruzi b'ubuki mu bihuru, ubutagira gihanura ? Oya, nibicike abantu bace akenge. 

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Best regards/ Avec respect

François Munyabagisha
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1(819)461-0353 Cel 
1(514)317-3063 Bur 
1(855)461-0353 Fax
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Le 17 déc. 2015 à 09:05, kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com> a écrit :

Yemwe abanyarwanda ni nka wa mwana umara kumena ibilyo akirukira kwa nyina ati ndashonje mama! Tubaze:

Igihe twabonye igihugu kikatunanira, tukajya gushaka inkotanyi na ba Kagame ngo baze bagitegeke, twibwiraga ko batazabikora?

Abakiga se n'abanyenduga bangana urunuka ku bulyo abanyenduga bifuza inkotanyi aho kubona abakiga (mbikuye muli "Guichaoua 2004"), bagiraga ngo inkotanyi nti zizabyunva zikabatabara?

Abanyarwanda se igihe banze  FAR zabo, bakazinaniza, bagira ngo nizimara kuvaho RDF ntizaza bagahunga nkuko jenerali Kabarebe yabibwiye abanyamakuru bigishwaga mw'itorero lya Nkumba, ati ni mwanga ingabo zanyu ubwo ntakundi muzahunga?

Nimurekeraho kulyongora, abemera iyo empire Hima bayisingize, abatayemera nabo bayihakane, ahasigaye ugize Immana yihakirwe agabirwe, anywe amata n'ubuki ategereje nyamunsi.
 

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:19:47 +0000
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Subject: Joseph Ngarambe: "abavuga ... EMPIRE HIMA ni abasazi". Injiji ziba koko mu bize.

Mu kiganiro cyavugaga ku ijambo rya Samanta Power,  giherutse gutambuka kuri radio itahuka, umuhutu Joseph Ngarambe yarihanukiye ati "abavuga ko hari umugambi wa EMPIRE HIMA-TUTSI NI ABASAZI. Na Paul Kagame ati: "injiji Ziba mu bize". Nanjye ntyo. Kurikira umenye ukuri!

Presidents (from L) Salvar Kiir of South Sudan, Joseph Kabila of the Democratic Republic of Congo, Yoweri Museveni of Uganda and Paul Kagame of Rwanda stand during a photo opportunity before the start of the extraordinary summit of the International Conference on the Great Lakes Region (ICGLR) head of states emergency summit in Kampala, September 5, 2013. (Reuters/James Akena)
 

... "Le Rwanda ne cesse de violer la Résolution  2248 de l'ONU quand il envoie ses émissaires armés, violant ainsi le respect des frontières des nations frontalières. Nous l'avons à maintes fois constaté par des entrainements paramilitaires des burundais refugiés sur le territoire rwandais, sachant qu'il n'est plus un secret pour personne car des investigations d'ONGs internationales comme Refugee International l'a déjà clarifié.
La Ligue Izere Ntiwihebure se demande pourquoi l'ONU et les Occidentaux ferment toujours les yeux  quand le Rwanda sabote les résolutions auxquelles elle a ratifiée. Nous nous demandons pourquoi le Rwanda fait changer par force la Constitution et que l'ONU et la communauté Internationale n'osent pas condamner cette pratique antidémocratique.


Le gouvernement du Burundi a déjà soumis à maintes reprises, auprès de l'ONU,  des dénonciations faisant état du non respect par le Rwanda, des résolutions qui parlent de la Souveraineté, de l'Unité et de l'Intégrité d'une Nation. Néanmoins, nous regrettons qu'aucune mesure n'a encore été prise contre le Rwanda alors que toutes les preuves démontrent qu'il est derrière les attaques perpétrées  contre les burundais innocents."... 

UZAMVUGARUZA NI UZAMBWIRA KAGAME YAHANWE.... NA USA.















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