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Re: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

 Utyo Samuel, utyo utyo;
Ibi narabivuze muri posting yanjye yo ku ya 17/04/2015 hano kuri DHR aho nagize nti:
"Basomyi banditsi,
Aha ni ho mugomba kubonera ko ubutegetsi burangajwe imbere n'abahutu(hutu-led Govt) nk'ubwa Nkurunziza na CNDD-FDD i Burundi butandukanye kure n'ubutetegetsi burangajwe imbere n'abatutsi(tutsi-led Govt) nk'ubwa Kagame na FPR mu Rwanda. Ubw'abahutu burareka n'abatutsi bakavuga, societe civile igakora, umututsi ancien president Buyoya agahamagaza conference de prese agatangariza abanyamakuru ko adashyigikiye ko perezida w'umuhutu uriho yongera kwiyamamaza; mbese i Burundi hari un minimum de democratie ikora. Mu Rwanda ahari ubutetegetsi bw'abatutsi ntawe ukopfora, ushatse kuzamura agatoki baragaca,ushatse kuzamura ijwi bakamukata ijosi, emwe nushatse kuzana internal debate muri FPR nyirizina bakamufunga nka Colonel Byabagamba na General Rusagara. Ubu se ancien President Bizimungu(Hutu) abigenze nka mugenzi we ancien president Buyoya maze akoreshe conference de presse hariya i Kigali atange igitekerezo cye na we cy'uko itegeko nshinga ry'u Rwanda ritagomba guhinduka ngo perezida uriho yongere yiyamamaze! Ntashobora kuko yahita yicirwa aho. We na Minisitiri Ntakirutinka Karoli bafunzwe imyaka 10 muri gereza ya Kigali ubu bakaba bafungiye mu ngo zabo bazira gusa ko mu 2003 bashinze ishyaka Parti Democratique pour le Renouveau(PDR-UBUYANJA) ritavuga rumwe na FPR ya Kagame iri ku butegetsi mu Rwanda. Abakunda comparative studies/etudes comparees murasangwe."
Perezida Nkurunziza n'ubutegetsi bwe bahaye abarundi ukwishyira bakizana mu gutanga ibitekerezo byabo mu mashyaka ya politiki yigenga, mu mashyirahamwe yigenga, no mw'itangazamakuru ryigenga, byose bidakorera mu kwaha kwishyaka rya Nkurunziza riri ku butegetsi. None Kagame na DMI ye, bakoreshe amafaranga n'amoko yabo, bacengeye UPRONA(parti tutsi) n'amashyirahamwe ayibogamiyeho, bacengeye CNDD-FDD baha amafaranga abo ba Radjabu n'abandi kugirango iby'i Burundi byose bishingiye kw'isangira ry'ubutegetsi hagati ya hutu na tutsi babisambure amahanga areke kujya ahora aza mu Rwanda kubategeka gukora iby'isangira ry'ubutegetsi bisa nk'iby'i Burundi. Kandi mwese mwibuke ko ibi ari byo amashyaka yo muri opposition nyarwanda ari byo duharanira, ari byo dusaba ubu.Icyo Kagame agamije avec sa main invisible derriere les evenements au Burundi, ni ukugirango iby'i Burundi bishwanyuke maze abone argument yo kuvuga ko ibyo by'isangira ry'ubutegetsi hutu/tutsi atari byo kamara kuko n'i Burundi bitagize icyo bimara bityo ko bamureka ibyo mu Rwanda akabikora uko abyumva, uko abyishakira(asseoir une domination tutsi absolue au Rwanda).
(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi wa PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
 

2015-04-28 14:22 GMT-04:00 Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>:
 Mu Rwanda ho ni "one direction thinking". Kagame we abaturage basabwe kumuvugira ko agomba gukomeza gutegeka. Propagande yaratangiye. Nta wavuga ati nsishaka ko Kagame yongera kwiyamamaza. Murumva koko mu Rwanda wavuga iki kindi uretse kuvuga ibyo Kagame ashaka. Nabe no mu Burundi. Bo bateye imbere muri Demokarasi. Ikibazo ni uko hari abashaka kubyitwaza kugira ngo habe violence. Bamwe bakaba boshya abaturage ngo bajye guhungira mu Rwanda, maze berekane ko hari ibibazo mu Buraundi, ko mu Rwanda nat bihari. Ko ubutegetsi bwa Kagame bukunzwe n'abanyarwanda bose.  Ko kagame we nta kibazo afite cyo gufata manda ya gatatu.


 
Yemwe yemwe uyu mugabo Kotant Venant ko muzi nk'umuntu ukuze usheshe akanguhe kandi wanasomye koko ibi niwe wabyanditse cg ni abamwibye email ye?
Ubu koko Kotant Venant  yasobanura itegeko mumategeko  y' uburundi Nyiricyubahiro Nkurunziza yishe mukuba yashobora gutorerwa kwiyamamariza kuyobora u Burundi?

Ese Kota Venant wibuka ko Nkurunziza yatowe n' abayoboke hafi 800 bari munama ya Kongre y' ishyaka abarizwamo CNDD-FDD? NIba se abo bamurwanya bizeye intsinzi kuki batihangana ngo bategereze ko amatora aba noneho bakazatora undi bityo bazajye mumumihandfa bagaragaza ko bibwe amajwi?Hari ahandi wabonye abantu bigaragambiriza ikintu kitari cyabo uretse abo banyapolitiki ngo na société civile y' u Burundi?

Harya ubundi ko abakandida bemerwa bwanyuma mukuziyamama kumwanya wa Prezida w' u Burundi na Komisiyo ishinzwe amatora kandi iyo komisiyo ikaba ntacyo iratangaza kuki abigaragambya batategereje icyemezo cya komisiyo?Ese ko uvuga ko Nkurunziza yishe itegeko abo bigaragambya nihe bamuregeye bakavuga ko inkiko zabarenganyije cg zakoreshejwe ikirego cyabo ntigihabwe agaciro maze bakabona kwigaragambya? Ariko ni bigaragambye nuko byibura ubwo burenganzira Nkurunziza yabahaye ndetse akabaha naho amaradio avugira.

Harya iyo FPR na Kagame ushima ko ubizi hashize imyaka irenga 20 iyobora hari umuntu cg ishyirahamwe wari wabona ryigaragambya rinenga Leta y' u Rwanda?Ibinyamakuru cg Radio bigerageje kubikora harya wibuka ibyo bikanirwa?

Kota nyabune ihangane wongere usesengura wabona hari ubundi buryo wavumbuye buha agaciro abateza akavuyo m' uburundi barengera igihugu.

Ndongera nkubwire nti kandi aho wagereranyije ubutegetsi bwa Nkurunziza na 1ere ministre w' u Rwanda nabyo ntibihura ahubwo iyo uvuga uti opposition y'i Burundi nizo ngirwa société civile nizo wagombye kugereranya na opposition yo mu Rwanda mugihe cyo kwa Habyalimana yihaye kwiyomeka kuri FPR kurusha gusesengura ibibazo abanyarwanda bari barimo.

Ibyabaye nibyakurikiye ntiwabibonye?

Njye ndemeza ndaciye kuruhande ko opposition na société civile b' i Burundi byacengewe kandi bikaba  biri gukoreshwa nyamara ubakoresha ariwe ubifitemo inyungu.

Nta n' isoni abantu bo muri CNDD -FDD baraba batumvikana hagati yabo kandi ibyo birasanzwe za Radio RPA na Bonesha zikirirwa zitwika igihugu ngo ni nigenoside igiye gukorwa?Aba bagabo se hagati yabo cg na FNL ko aribo bahanganye murwego rwa politiki kandi tukaba tuziko bose ari abahutu nibo bagiye gukorana hagati yabo jenosayidi?
Harya ko UBURUNDI buhana imbibi n' u Rwanda ,Tanzaniya,RDC wasobanura ute impunzi ziriguhungira gusa i Rwanda kandi dusanzwe tuziko abahungira muri Tanzaniya bafatwa neza ndetse bakanatuzwa bakanahabwa n' ubwenegihugu?

Harya ujya ubona hari ibindi binyamakuru byandika k' u Burundi nk' iby' i Rwanda ? Twavuga ibinyamakuru:Igihe,Umuryango,Umuseke,Imirasire,Kigalitoday,Rushyashya etc ... kandi byose byandika inkuru zimwe.Ubwo ntacyo ubonamo?Ongere usesengure kabona niyo waba wanga Nkurunziza ntabwo wagombye gushyigikira igituma abarundi bamarana.


Jean Damascène Ntaganzwa.

N.B:Ibindi siniriwe mbyandikaho kuko nabonye abandi nkaba Zac Biampa,Anastase Gasana,Rwembe ,Samuel babisobanuye kandi najye tukaba ibyo bavuze tubyemeranyaho.



 
Aliko mwa bantu mwe nubwo RPF na bwana Kagame bakora byinshi bibi, aliko hali aho bakabilizwa! 
Uliya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza niwe wanze kunva ko kwica amategeko bibyara invururu, kandi yarabibonye henshi muli Afrika.  Ninde washyigikira igikorwa cya Nkurunziza cyo guhakana mandats ebyili yakoze yitwaje ko ngo iyambere atayihawe n'abarundi?   Ibi ni bwa buhendanyi n'ubusuma mu masezerano bikunze kuranga abanyapolitiki b'abanyafurika, kandi bifite ingaruka mbi cyane. Biratuma abarundi babura isimburana litomoye ly'ububutegetsi Mandela yali yabihereye, bilicira n'abandi bose basonzeye democrasi no gusimburana ku butegetsi hubahilijwe abakandida n'amatora bidafifitse mu mwanya wa  za coups d'etat na za jenosayidi.  
Bwana Nkurunziza  yitwaza ngo ntiyatowe n'abaturage batabonetse bakegulira uburenganzira bwabo abadepite ngo babibakorere murunva ali imhanvu yunvikana yo guhakana mandat yakoze, noneho agahindukira akavuga ngo yakoze imwe gusa? Kuki se atarekeye abandi iyo mandat atemera maze agategereza izo ebyili avuga ko agomba guhabwa n'abaturage bahugutse? Puu, ntawe ugomba kwiba ubutegetsi ashaka kwikondera igihugu akigira akalima ke, hagomba kubahilizwa za Constitutions kandi ziba zitomoye uretse amabandi aba ashaka kuzivugisha ibyo zitavuga. Rwose abanyafurika bakwiye kunva ko ingoma z'abami ba nyili-ibihugu ahenshi zasezerewe muli Afrika!

Bwana Kagame na RPF ibyo bakora byose batobera Uburundi ntacyo bihindura, rwose ikosa na nyirabayazana w'ibera i Burundi ni 100% ilya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza na Cndd-FDD ye baliho bashora igihugu cyabo mu Rwabayanga. Ni nka bimwe 1ere ministre wa Habyarimana yaliho agurisha igihugu bayobora kwa RPF (Guichaoua, 2004) ngo arahima Habyarimana: amakosa ntabwo yabaye aya RPF ahubwo yabaye aya Habyarimana n'uwo mu premiere we, bombi n'abaturage benshi bahasiga agatwe, RPF ifata ingoma abaturage batishwe baba ingaruzwamuheto!
Niba n'aba bategetsi b'Uburundi balishe abo mu mashyaka yabo bashoboye, bakagombye kuba intwali bakemera bagatanga ikigarasha cy'umukandida mubo basigaranye kigatsindwa amatora, nuko andi mashyaka afite abashoboye agafata ubutegetsi agatangira ikivi (mandat) gishya mu mulima w'Uburundi bikulikije Itegeko-nshinga lyabo Mandela yabafashije kwandikira Arusha. 

Uvuze ko nyili urugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!


To: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
From: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:27:26 +0000
Subject: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Burindi sezera East African Community
 
Ibyo  muri East African Community ntibyumvikana:
 
Hashize iminsi mike Kenya itewe n'abaterroristes, hapafa bantu benshi. Ibi kandi byabaye inshuro nyinshi. Ibindi bihugu byo muri East Africa ntibyatabara, ikibazo bagihariye Kenya.
 
None dore ibibera mu Burundi, Ibindi bihugu bya East Africa biti irwarize.
 
Bya bindi byose bahora baririmba bya peace and security ni amagambo gusa.
 
U Burundi bwari bukwiye gusezera muri East African Community  kuko bigaragara ko Kagame yashyizeho abantu bo gutera imvururu mu Burundi no gutea ubwoba abaturage baboshya  ngo bahungire mu Rwanda, bityo bihe ingufu Kagame wiyumvamo ko ariwe mutegetsi wemewe mu karere. Ibi kandi yanabikoze kuri RDC aho yakomeje kuvuga ko ibibazo byayo ari ukubera governance mbi. No ku kibazo cy'Uburundi, Kagame ni uko abibona.







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Re: *DHR* Re: FW: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Abarundi bari bakwiye kutibagirwa uko mu Rwanda byagenze. Muri CNDD-FDD harimo ba Twagiramungu Faustin  Rukokoma n'abandi nkawe mutayobewe bakoreye RPF mu Rwanda . None abo nabo bo muri CNDD-FDD bakorera amashyaka ayobowe n'abatutsi mu Burundi no mu Rwanda.
 

From: "Anastase Gasana gasana31@gmail.com [amakurunamateka]" <amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: *DHR* Re: FW: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 
Dieudonne,
Ntabwo ari ukubogama ahubwo twe twashakaga kwerekana THE BIG PICTURE kugirango abantu bibaze, basobanukirwe n'ikihishe inyuma ya biriya byose.
Kuri jye, Nkurunziza aurait pu dejouer  kiriya kihishe inyuma(Kagame na Museveni) ashyiraho we n'ishyaka rye CNDD-FDD undi mu candidat bose bahurijeho utari we, maze ahubwo akaba ari we yamamamaza.
(Gasana Anastase).

2015-04-28 10:19 GMT-04:00 Anastase Gasana gasana31@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:


 
KOTA, SOMA IYI POSTING YA BIAMPA IRAGUFASHA KUMVA KURUSHAHO IBIBAZO BYA GEOPOLITIQUE NA GEOSTRATEGIE BIRI MU KARERE KACU K'IBIYAGA BIGARI:
"Comme toujours tu n'as rien compris et tu es à côté de la plaque :
1. Nkurunziza n'est pas dans le même cas que les deux "K" : pour se présenter aux prochaines élections, il n'avait pas besoin de modifier la Constintution qui stipule que " le Président de la République est élu AU SUFRAGE UNIVERSEL" pour un mandat de 5 ans et qu'il ne peut pas exercer plus de 2 mandats. Or, P Nkurunziza n'a été élu au suffrage universel qu'une seule fois en 2010. Si Kagame ou Kabila veulent faire de même, eux ils passeront d'abord par la case de "l'amendement de la Consitution".
2. Tout observateur de bonne foi perçoit que l'opposition burundaise est manipulée par ceux-là même qui connaissent les faiblesses des politiciens hutu en général notamment leur promptitude à s'entredéchirer pour le pouvoir, et ne font que jeter l'huile sur le feu en attendant d'intervenir pour "arrêter le génocide" lequel "génocide" serait illustré par les tueries télécommandées et filmées par ceux-là même qui les commettent... ( rappel des Inkotanyi qui tenaient des barrières sous l'appellation d'Interahamwe en 1994 et qui tuaient sous les caméras, les "tutsi" pour accréditer le génocide.
3. Toi qui semble passer le plus clair de ton temps à éplucher la presse , il est étonnant que tu n'ais pas déjà lu ou entendu quelque part les admirateurs du "modèle rwandais" à la Kagame soupirer comme quoi la démocratie au Burundi constituait un mauvais exemple à éradiquer!"
From day one, Kagame na FPR ye ntabwo bigeze  bishimira ishyirwa mu bikorwa ry'amasezerano ya Arusha y'abarundi kuko byahaye uburyo abazungu kwirirwa baduhira mu matwi ya Kagame ngo isangira ry'ubutegetsi hagati y'abahutu n'abatutsi mu Rwanda nk'uko birimo bikorwa i Burundi ni byo byakubaka u Rwanda. Kuva ubwo Kagame na FPR ntibigeze bahwema gukora sabotages mu butegetsi bw'i Burundi bakoresheje Buyoya na UPRONA, abasilikare 50% b'abatutsi bari mu ngabo z'u Burundi n'abatutsi b'abanyarwanda b'impunzi za 59 batatashye bagumye i Burundi.Ibuka ukuntu Kagame yaguze Radjabu ngo akore declaration i Kigali contre la France perezida Nkurunziza ntacyo abiziho yataha agahita amufunga. None amafaranga n'ibyitso bya Kagame biramufunguye iferi ya mbere ayifungira i Kigali. Wigeze ubona ahungira Tanzania cyangwa DRC. Nta information biguha! Sinduhije ari mu Rwanda. Nta information biguha! Kagame niwe ufite inyungu y'uko experience du Burundi iba un echec total kugirango bimubere un argument yo guha abazungu bahora bamuhatira ibya partage du pouvoir hutu/tutsi a la burundaise bityo ibyo mu Rwanda we abikore uko abyumva, uko abishaka(asseoir une domination tutsi absolue au Rwanda). Ni yo mpamvu ubona ko impunzi z'abarundi ziri teleguides guhungira mu Rwanda gusa ntizihungire Tanzania na DRC kandi ibyo bihugu nabyo bihana imbibi n'u Burundi.(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi w'ishyaka PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejewe inyuma y'urugi).

2015-04-28 8:08 GMT-04:00 kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>:
Aliko mwa bantu mwe nubwo RPF na bwana Kagame bakora byinshi bibi, aliko hali aho bakabilizwa! 
Uliya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza niwe wanze kunva ko kwica amategeko bibyara invururu, kandi yarabibonye henshi muli Afrika.  Ninde washyigikira igikorwa cya Nkurunziza cyo guhakana mandats ebyili yakoze yitwaje ko ngo iyambere atayihawe n'abarundi?   Ibi ni bwa buhendanyi n'ubusuma mu masezerano bikunze kuranga abanyapolitiki b'abanyafurika, kandi bifite ingaruka mbi cyane. Biratuma abarundi babura isimburana litomoye ly'ububutegetsi Mandela yali yabihereye, bilicira n'abandi bose basonzeye democrasi no gusimburana ku butegetsi hubahilijwe abakandida n'amatora bidafifitse mu mwanya wa  za coups d'etat na za jenosayidi.  
Bwana Nkurunziza  yitwaza ngo ntiyatowe n'abaturage batabonetse bakegulira uburenganzira bwabo abadepite ngo babibakorere murunva ali imhanvu yunvikana yo guhakana mandat yakoze, noneho agahindukira akavuga ngo yakoze imwe gusa? Kuki se atarekeye abandi iyo mandat atemera maze agategereza izo ebyili avuga ko agomba guhabwa n'abaturage bahugutse? Puu, ntawe ugomba kwiba ubutegetsi ashaka kwikondera igihugu akigira akalima ke, hagomba kubahilizwa za Constitutions kandi ziba zitomoye uretse amabandi aba ashaka kuzivugisha ibyo zitavuga. Rwose abanyafurika bakwiye kunva ko ingoma z'abami ba nyili-ibihugu ahenshi zasezerewe muli Afrika!

Bwana Kagame na RPF ibyo bakora byose batobera Uburundi ntacyo bihindura, rwose ikosa na nyirabayazana w'ibera i Burundi ni 100% ilya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza na Cndd-FDD ye baliho bashora igihugu cyabo mu Rwabayanga. Ni nka bimwe 1ere ministre wa Habyarimana yaliho agurisha igihugu bayobora kwa RPF (Guichaoua, 2004) ngo arahima Habyarimana: amakosa ntabwo yabaye aya RPF ahubwo yabaye aya Habyarimana n'uwo mu premiere we, bombi n'abaturage benshi bahasiga agatwe, RPF ifata ingoma abaturage batishwe baba ingaruzwamuheto!
Niba n'aba bategetsi b'Uburundi balishe abo mu mashyaka yabo bashoboye, bakagombye kuba intwali bakemera bagatanga ikigarasha cy'umukandida mubo basigaranye kigatsindwa amatora, nuko andi mashyaka afite abashoboye agafata ubutegetsi agatangira ikivi (mandat) gishya mu mulima w'Uburundi bikulikije Itegeko-nshinga lyabo Mandela yabafashije kwandikira Arusha. 

Uvuze ko nyili urugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!


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From: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:27:26 +0000
Subject: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Burindi sezera East African Community
 
Ibyo  muri East African Community ntibyumvikana:
 
Hashize iminsi mike Kenya itewe n'abaterroristes, hapafa bantu benshi. Ibi kandi byabaye inshuro nyinshi. Ibindi bihugu byo muri East Africa ntibyatabara, ikibazo bagihariye Kenya.
 
None dore ibibera mu Burundi, Ibindi bihugu bya East Africa biti irwarize.
 
Bya bindi byose bahora baririmba bya peace and security ni amagambo gusa.
 
U Burundi bwari bukwiye gusezera muri East African Community  kuko bigaragara ko Kagame yashyizeho abantu bo gutera imvururu mu Burundi no gutea ubwoba abaturage baboshya  ngo bahungire mu Rwanda, bityo bihe ingufu Kagame wiyumvamo ko ariwe mutegetsi wemewe mu karere. Ibi kandi yanabikoze kuri RDC aho yakomeje kuvuga ko ibibazo byayo ari ukubera governance mbi. No ku kibazo cy'Uburundi, Kagame ni uko abibona.






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-I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.
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 Mu Rwanda ho ni "one direction thinking". Kagame we abaturage basabwe kumuvugira ko agomba gukomeza gutegeka. Propagande yaratangiye. Nta wavuga ati nsishaka ko Kagame yongera kwiyamamaza. Murumva koko mu Rwanda wavuga iki kindi uretse kuvuga ibyo Kagame ashaka. Nabe no mu Burundi. Bo bateye imbere muri Demokarasi. Ikibazo ni uko hari abashaka kubyitwaza kugira ngo habe violence. Bamwe bakaba boshya abaturage ngo bajye guhungira mu Rwanda, maze berekane ko hari ibibazo mu Buraundi, ko mu Rwanda nat bihari. Ko ubutegetsi bwa Kagame bukunzwe n'abanyarwanda bose.  Ko kagame we nta kibazo afite cyo gufata manda ya gatatu.

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Yemwe yemwe uyu mugabo Kotant Venant ko muzi nk'umuntu ukuze usheshe akanguhe kandi wanasomye koko ibi niwe wabyanditse cg ni abamwibye email ye?
Ubu koko Kotant Venant  yasobanura itegeko mumategeko  y' uburundi Nyiricyubahiro Nkurunziza yishe mukuba yashobora gutorerwa kwiyamamariza kuyobora u Burundi?

Ese Kota Venant wibuka ko Nkurunziza yatowe n' abayoboke hafi 800 bari munama ya Kongre y' ishyaka abarizwamo CNDD-FDD? NIba se abo bamurwanya bizeye intsinzi kuki batihangana ngo bategereze ko amatora aba noneho bakazatora undi bityo bazajye mumumihandfa bagaragaza ko bibwe amajwi?Hari ahandi wabonye abantu bigaragambiriza ikintu kitari cyabo uretse abo banyapolitiki ngo na société civile y' u Burundi?

Harya ubundi ko abakandida bemerwa bwanyuma mukuziyamama kumwanya wa Prezida w' u Burundi na Komisiyo ishinzwe amatora kandi iyo komisiyo ikaba ntacyo iratangaza kuki abigaragambya batategereje icyemezo cya komisiyo?Ese ko uvuga ko Nkurunziza yishe itegeko abo bigaragambya nihe bamuregeye bakavuga ko inkiko zabarenganyije cg zakoreshejwe ikirego cyabo ntigihabwe agaciro maze bakabona kwigaragambya? Ariko ni bigaragambye nuko byibura ubwo burenganzira Nkurunziza yabahaye ndetse akabaha naho amaradio avugira.

Harya iyo FPR na Kagame ushima ko ubizi hashize imyaka irenga 20 iyobora hari umuntu cg ishyirahamwe wari wabona ryigaragambya rinenga Leta y' u Rwanda?Ibinyamakuru cg Radio bigerageje kubikora harya wibuka ibyo bikanirwa?

Kota nyabune ihangane wongere usesengura wabona hari ubundi buryo wavumbuye buha agaciro abateza akavuyo m' uburundi barengera igihugu.

Ndongera nkubwire nti kandi aho wagereranyije ubutegetsi bwa Nkurunziza na 1ere ministre w' u Rwanda nabyo ntibihura ahubwo iyo uvuga uti opposition y'i Burundi nizo ngirwa société civile nizo wagombye kugereranya na opposition yo mu Rwanda mugihe cyo kwa Habyalimana yihaye kwiyomeka kuri FPR kurusha gusesengura ibibazo abanyarwanda bari barimo.

Ibyabaye nibyakurikiye ntiwabibonye?

Njye ndemeza ndaciye kuruhande ko opposition na société civile b' i Burundi byacengewe kandi bikaba  biri gukoreshwa nyamara ubakoresha ariwe ubifitemo inyungu.

Nta n' isoni abantu bo muri CNDD -FDD baraba batumvikana hagati yabo kandi ibyo birasanzwe za Radio RPA na Bonesha zikirirwa zitwika igihugu ngo ni nigenoside igiye gukorwa?Aba bagabo se hagati yabo cg na FNL ko aribo bahanganye murwego rwa politiki kandi tukaba tuziko bose ari abahutu nibo bagiye gukorana hagati yabo jenosayidi?
Harya ko UBURUNDI buhana imbibi n' u Rwanda ,Tanzaniya,RDC wasobanura ute impunzi ziriguhungira gusa i Rwanda kandi dusanzwe tuziko abahungira muri Tanzaniya bafatwa neza ndetse bakanatuzwa bakanahabwa n' ubwenegihugu?

Harya ujya ubona hari ibindi binyamakuru byandika k' u Burundi nk' iby' i Rwanda ? Twavuga ibinyamakuru:Igihe,Umuryango,Umuseke,Imirasire,Kigalitoday,Rushyashya etc ... kandi byose byandika inkuru zimwe.Ubwo ntacyo ubonamo?Ongere usesengure kabona niyo waba wanga Nkurunziza ntabwo wagombye gushyigikira igituma abarundi bamarana.


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Aliko mwa bantu mwe nubwo RPF na bwana Kagame bakora byinshi bibi, aliko hali aho bakabilizwa! 
Uliya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza niwe wanze kunva ko kwica amategeko bibyara invururu, kandi yarabibonye henshi muli Afrika.  Ninde washyigikira igikorwa cya Nkurunziza cyo guhakana mandats ebyili yakoze yitwaje ko ngo iyambere atayihawe n'abarundi?   Ibi ni bwa buhendanyi n'ubusuma mu masezerano bikunze kuranga abanyapolitiki b'abanyafurika, kandi bifite ingaruka mbi cyane. Biratuma abarundi babura isimburana litomoye ly'ububutegetsi Mandela yali yabihereye, bilicira n'abandi bose basonzeye democrasi no gusimburana ku butegetsi hubahilijwe abakandida n'amatora bidafifitse mu mwanya wa  za coups d'etat na za jenosayidi.  
Bwana Nkurunziza  yitwaza ngo ntiyatowe n'abaturage batabonetse bakegulira uburenganzira bwabo abadepite ngo babibakorere murunva ali imhanvu yunvikana yo guhakana mandat yakoze, noneho agahindukira akavuga ngo yakoze imwe gusa? Kuki se atarekeye abandi iyo mandat atemera maze agategereza izo ebyili avuga ko agomba guhabwa n'abaturage bahugutse? Puu, ntawe ugomba kwiba ubutegetsi ashaka kwikondera igihugu akigira akalima ke, hagomba kubahilizwa za Constitutions kandi ziba zitomoye uretse amabandi aba ashaka kuzivugisha ibyo zitavuga. Rwose abanyafurika bakwiye kunva ko ingoma z'abami ba nyili-ibihugu ahenshi zasezerewe muli Afrika!

Bwana Kagame na RPF ibyo bakora byose batobera Uburundi ntacyo bihindura, rwose ikosa na nyirabayazana w'ibera i Burundi ni 100% ilya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza na Cndd-FDD ye baliho bashora igihugu cyabo mu Rwabayanga. Ni nka bimwe 1ere ministre wa Habyarimana yaliho agurisha igihugu bayobora kwa RPF (Guichaoua, 2004) ngo arahima Habyarimana: amakosa ntabwo yabaye aya RPF ahubwo yabaye aya Habyarimana n'uwo mu premiere we, bombi n'abaturage benshi bahasiga agatwe, RPF ifata ingoma abaturage batishwe baba ingaruzwamuheto!
Niba n'aba bategetsi b'Uburundi balishe abo mu mashyaka yabo bashoboye, bakagombye kuba intwali bakemera bagatanga ikigarasha cy'umukandida mubo basigaranye kigatsindwa amatora, nuko andi mashyaka afite abashoboye agafata ubutegetsi agatangira ikivi (mandat) gishya mu mulima w'Uburundi bikulikije Itegeko-nshinga lyabo Mandela yabafashije kwandikira Arusha. 

Uvuze ko nyili urugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!


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Subject: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Burindi sezera East African Community
 
Ibyo  muri East African Community ntibyumvikana:
 
Hashize iminsi mike Kenya itewe n'abaterroristes, hapafa bantu benshi. Ibi kandi byabaye inshuro nyinshi. Ibindi bihugu byo muri East Africa ntibyatabara, ikibazo bagihariye Kenya.
 
None dore ibibera mu Burundi, Ibindi bihugu bya East Africa biti irwarize.
 
Bya bindi byose bahora baririmba bya peace and security ni amagambo gusa.
 
U Burundi bwari bukwiye gusezera muri East African Community  kuko bigaragara ko Kagame yashyizeho abantu bo gutera imvururu mu Burundi no gutea ubwoba abaturage baboshya  ngo bahungire mu Rwanda, bityo bihe ingufu Kagame wiyumvamo ko ariwe mutegetsi wemewe mu karere. Ibi kandi yanabikoze kuri RDC aho yakomeje kuvuga ko ibibazo byayo ari ukubera governance mbi. No ku kibazo cy'Uburundi, Kagame ni uko abibona.






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Yemwe yemwe uyu mugabo Kotant Venant ko muzi nk'umuntu ukuze usheshe akanguhe kandi wanasomye koko ibi niwe wabyanditse cg ni abamwibye email ye?
Ubu koko Kotant Venant  yasobanura itegeko mumategeko  y' uburundi Nyiricyubahiro Nkurunziza yishe mukuba yashobora gutorerwa kwiyamamariza kuyobora u Burundi?

Ese Kota Venant wibuka ko Nkurunziza yatowe n' abayoboke hafi 800 bari munama ya Kongre y' ishyaka abarizwamo CNDD-FDD? NIba se abo bamurwanya bizeye intsinzi kuki batihangana ngo bategereze ko amatora aba noneho bakazatora undi bityo bazajye mumumihandfa bagaragaza ko bibwe amajwi?Hari ahandi wabonye abantu bigaragambiriza ikintu kitari cyabo uretse abo banyapolitiki ngo na société civile y' u Burundi?

Harya ubundi ko abakandida bemerwa bwanyuma mukuziyamama kumwanya wa Prezida w' u Burundi na Komisiyo ishinzwe amatora kandi iyo komisiyo ikaba ntacyo iratangaza kuki abigaragambya batategereje icyemezo cya komisiyo?Ese ko uvuga ko Nkurunziza yishe itegeko abo bigaragambya nihe bamuregeye bakavuga ko inkiko zabarenganyije cg zakoreshejwe ikirego cyabo ntigihabwe agaciro maze bakabona kwigaragambya? Ariko ni bigaragambye nuko byibura ubwo burenganzira Nkurunziza yabahaye ndetse akabaha naho amaradio avugira.

Harya iyo FPR na Kagame ushima ko ubizi hashize imyaka irenga 20 iyobora hari umuntu cg ishyirahamwe wari wabona ryigaragambya rinenga Leta y' u Rwanda?Ibinyamakuru cg Radio bigerageje kubikora harya wibuka ibyo bikanirwa?

Kota nyabune ihangane wongere usesengura wabona hari ubundi buryo wavumbuye buha agaciro abateza akavuyo m' uburundi barengera igihugu.

Ndongera nkubwire nti kandi aho wagereranyije ubutegetsi bwa Nkurunziza na 1ere ministre w' u Rwanda nabyo ntibihura ahubwo iyo uvuga uti opposition y'i Burundi nizo ngirwa société civile nizo wagombye kugereranya na opposition yo mu Rwanda mugihe cyo kwa Habyalimana yihaye kwiyomeka kuri FPR kurusha gusesengura ibibazo abanyarwanda bari barimo.

Ibyabaye nibyakurikiye ntiwabibonye?

Njye ndemeza ndaciye kuruhande ko opposition na société civile b' i Burundi byacengewe kandi bikaba  biri gukoreshwa nyamara ubakoresha ariwe ubifitemo inyungu.

Nta n' isoni abantu bo muri CNDD -FDD baraba batumvikana hagati yabo kandi ibyo birasanzwe za Radio RPA na Bonesha zikirirwa zitwika igihugu ngo ni nigenoside igiye gukorwa?Aba bagabo se hagati yabo cg na FNL ko aribo bahanganye murwego rwa politiki kandi tukaba tuziko bose ari abahutu nibo bagiye gukorana hagati yabo jenosayidi?
Harya ko UBURUNDI buhana imbibi n' u Rwanda ,Tanzaniya,RDC wasobanura ute impunzi ziriguhungira gusa i Rwanda kandi dusanzwe tuziko abahungira muri Tanzaniya bafatwa neza ndetse bakanatuzwa bakanahabwa n' ubwenegihugu?

Harya ujya ubona hari ibindi binyamakuru byandika k' u Burundi nk' iby' i Rwanda ? Twavuga ibinyamakuru:Igihe,Umuryango,Umuseke,Imirasire,Kigalitoday,Rushyashya etc ... kandi byose byandika inkuru zimwe.Ubwo ntacyo ubonamo?Ongere usesengure kabona niyo waba wanga Nkurunziza ntabwo wagombye gushyigikira igituma abarundi bamarana.


Jean Damascène Ntaganzwa.

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Aliko mwa bantu mwe nubwo RPF na bwana Kagame bakora byinshi bibi, aliko hali aho bakabilizwa! 
Uliya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza niwe wanze kunva ko kwica amategeko bibyara invururu, kandi yarabibonye henshi muli Afrika.  Ninde washyigikira igikorwa cya Nkurunziza cyo guhakana mandats ebyili yakoze yitwaje ko ngo iyambere atayihawe n'abarundi?   Ibi ni bwa buhendanyi n'ubusuma mu masezerano bikunze kuranga abanyapolitiki b'abanyafurika, kandi bifite ingaruka mbi cyane. Biratuma abarundi babura isimburana litomoye ly'ububutegetsi Mandela yali yabihereye, bilicira n'abandi bose basonzeye democrasi no gusimburana ku butegetsi hubahilijwe abakandida n'amatora bidafifitse mu mwanya wa  za coups d'etat na za jenosayidi.  
Bwana Nkurunziza  yitwaza ngo ntiyatowe n'abaturage batabonetse bakegulira uburenganzira bwabo abadepite ngo babibakorere murunva ali imhanvu yunvikana yo guhakana mandat yakoze, noneho agahindukira akavuga ngo yakoze imwe gusa? Kuki se atarekeye abandi iyo mandat atemera maze agategereza izo ebyili avuga ko agomba guhabwa n'abaturage bahugutse? Puu, ntawe ugomba kwiba ubutegetsi ashaka kwikondera igihugu akigira akalima ke, hagomba kubahilizwa za Constitutions kandi ziba zitomoye uretse amabandi aba ashaka kuzivugisha ibyo zitavuga. Rwose abanyafurika bakwiye kunva ko ingoma z'abami ba nyili-ibihugu ahenshi zasezerewe muli Afrika!

Bwana Kagame na RPF ibyo bakora byose batobera Uburundi ntacyo bihindura, rwose ikosa na nyirabayazana w'ibera i Burundi ni 100% ilya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza na Cndd-FDD ye baliho bashora igihugu cyabo mu Rwabayanga. Ni nka bimwe 1ere ministre wa Habyarimana yaliho agurisha igihugu bayobora kwa RPF (Guichaoua, 2004) ngo arahima Habyarimana: amakosa ntabwo yabaye aya RPF ahubwo yabaye aya Habyarimana n'uwo mu premiere we, bombi n'abaturage benshi bahasiga agatwe, RPF ifata ingoma abaturage batishwe baba ingaruzwamuheto!
Niba n'aba bategetsi b'Uburundi balishe abo mu mashyaka yabo bashoboye, bakagombye kuba intwali bakemera bagatanga ikigarasha cy'umukandida mubo basigaranye kigatsindwa amatora, nuko andi mashyaka afite abashoboye agafata ubutegetsi agatangira ikivi (mandat) gishya mu mulima w'Uburundi bikulikije Itegeko-nshinga lyabo Mandela yabafashije kwandikira Arusha. 

Uvuze ko nyili urugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!


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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:27:26 +0000
Subject: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Burindi sezera East African Community
 
Ibyo  muri East African Community ntibyumvikana:
 
Hashize iminsi mike Kenya itewe n'abaterroristes, hapafa bantu benshi. Ibi kandi byabaye inshuro nyinshi. Ibindi bihugu byo muri East Africa ntibyatabara, ikibazo bagihariye Kenya.
 
None dore ibibera mu Burundi, Ibindi bihugu bya East Africa biti irwarize.
 
Bya bindi byose bahora baririmba bya peace and security ni amagambo gusa.
 
U Burundi bwari bukwiye gusezera muri East African Community  kuko bigaragara ko Kagame yashyizeho abantu bo gutera imvururu mu Burundi no gutea ubwoba abaturage baboshya  ngo bahungire mu Rwanda, bityo bihe ingufu Kagame wiyumvamo ko ariwe mutegetsi wemewe mu karere. Ibi kandi yanabikoze kuri RDC aho yakomeje kuvuga ko ibibazo byayo ari ukubera governance mbi. No ku kibazo cy'Uburundi, Kagame ni uko abibona.




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Dieudonne,
Ntabwo ari ukubogama ahubwo twe twashakaga kwerekana THE BIG PICTURE kugirango abantu bibaze, basobanukirwe n'ikihishe inyuma ya biriya byose.
Kuri jye, Nkurunziza aurait pu dejouer  kiriya kihishe inyuma(Kagame na Museveni) ashyiraho we n'ishyaka rye CNDD-FDD undi mu candidat bose bahurijeho utari we, maze ahubwo akaba ari we yamamamaza.
(Gasana Anastase).

2015-04-28 10:19 GMT-04:00 Anastase Gasana gasana31@gmail.com [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
 

KOTA, SOMA IYI POSTING YA BIAMPA IRAGUFASHA KUMVA KURUSHAHO IBIBAZO BYA GEOPOLITIQUE NA GEOSTRATEGIE BIRI MU KARERE KACU K'IBIYAGA BIGARI:
"Comme toujours tu n'as rien compris et tu es à côté de la plaque :
1. Nkurunziza n'est pas dans le même cas que les deux "K" : pour se présenter aux prochaines élections, il n'avait pas besoin de modifier la Constintution qui stipule que " le Président de la République est élu AU SUFRAGE UNIVERSEL" pour un mandat de 5 ans et qu'il ne peut pas exercer plus de 2 mandats. Or, P Nkurunziza n'a été élu au suffrage universel qu'une seule fois en 2010. Si Kagame ou Kabila veulent faire de même, eux ils passeront d'abord par la case de "l'amendement de la Consitution".
2. Tout observateur de bonne foi perçoit que l'opposition burundaise est manipulée par ceux-là même qui connaissent les faiblesses des politiciens hutu en général notamment leur promptitude à s'entredéchirer pour le pouvoir, et ne font que jeter l'huile sur le feu en attendant d'intervenir pour "arrêter le génocide" lequel "génocide" serait illustré par les tueries télécommandées et filmées par ceux-là même qui les commettent... ( rappel des Inkotanyi qui tenaient des barrières sous l'appellation d'Interahamwe en 1994 et qui tuaient sous les caméras, les "tutsi" pour accréditer le génocide.
3. Toi qui semble passer le plus clair de ton temps à éplucher la presse , il est étonnant que tu n'ais pas déjà lu ou entendu quelque part les admirateurs du "modèle rwandais" à la Kagame soupirer comme quoi la démocratie au Burundi constituait un mauvais exemple à éradiquer!"
From day one, Kagame na FPR ye ntabwo bigeze  bishimira ishyirwa mu bikorwa ry'amasezerano ya Arusha y'abarundi kuko byahaye uburyo abazungu kwirirwa baduhira mu matwi ya Kagame ngo isangira ry'ubutegetsi hagati y'abahutu n'abatutsi mu Rwanda nk'uko birimo bikorwa i Burundi ni byo byakubaka u Rwanda. Kuva ubwo Kagame na FPR ntibigeze bahwema gukora sabotages mu butegetsi bw'i Burundi bakoresheje Buyoya na UPRONA, abasilikare 50% b'abatutsi bari mu ngabo z'u Burundi n'abatutsi b'abanyarwanda b'impunzi za 59 batatashye bagumye i Burundi.Ibuka ukuntu Kagame yaguze Radjabu ngo akore declaration i Kigali contre la France perezida Nkurunziza ntacyo abiziho yataha agahita amufunga. None amafaranga n'ibyitso bya Kagame biramufunguye iferi ya mbere ayifungira i Kigali. Wigeze ubona ahungira Tanzania cyangwa DRC. Nta information biguha! Sinduhije ari mu Rwanda. Nta information biguha! Kagame niwe ufite inyungu y'uko experience du Burundi iba un echec total kugirango bimubere un argument yo guha abazungu bahora bamuhatira ibya partage du pouvoir hutu/tutsi a la burundaise bityo ibyo mu Rwanda we abikore uko abyumva, uko abishaka(asseoir une domination tutsi absolue au Rwanda). Ni yo mpamvu ubona ko impunzi z'abarundi ziri teleguides guhungira mu Rwanda gusa ntizihungire Tanzania na DRC kandi ibyo bihugu nabyo bihana imbibi n'u Burundi.(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi w'ishyaka PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejewe inyuma y'urugi).

2015-04-28 8:08 GMT-04:00 kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>:
Aliko mwa bantu mwe nubwo RPF na bwana Kagame bakora byinshi bibi, aliko hali aho bakabilizwa! 
Uliya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza niwe wanze kunva ko kwica amategeko bibyara invururu, kandi yarabibonye henshi muli Afrika.  Ninde washyigikira igikorwa cya Nkurunziza cyo guhakana mandats ebyili yakoze yitwaje ko ngo iyambere atayihawe n'abarundi?   Ibi ni bwa buhendanyi n'ubusuma mu masezerano bikunze kuranga abanyapolitiki b'abanyafurika, kandi bifite ingaruka mbi cyane. Biratuma abarundi babura isimburana litomoye ly'ububutegetsi Mandela yali yabihereye, bilicira n'abandi bose basonzeye democrasi no gusimburana ku butegetsi hubahilijwe abakandida n'amatora bidafifitse mu mwanya wa  za coups d'etat na za jenosayidi.  
Bwana Nkurunziza  yitwaza ngo ntiyatowe n'abaturage batabonetse bakegulira uburenganzira bwabo abadepite ngo babibakorere murunva ali imhanvu yunvikana yo guhakana mandat yakoze, noneho agahindukira akavuga ngo yakoze imwe gusa? Kuki se atarekeye abandi iyo mandat atemera maze agategereza izo ebyili avuga ko agomba guhabwa n'abaturage bahugutse? Puu, ntawe ugomba kwiba ubutegetsi ashaka kwikondera igihugu akigira akalima ke, hagomba kubahilizwa za Constitutions kandi ziba zitomoye uretse amabandi aba ashaka kuzivugisha ibyo zitavuga. Rwose abanyafurika bakwiye kunva ko ingoma z'abami ba nyili-ibihugu ahenshi zasezerewe muli Afrika!

Bwana Kagame na RPF ibyo bakora byose batobera Uburundi ntacyo bihindura, rwose ikosa na nyirabayazana w'ibera i Burundi ni 100% ilya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza na Cndd-FDD ye baliho bashora igihugu cyabo mu Rwabayanga. Ni nka bimwe 1ere ministre wa Habyarimana yaliho agurisha igihugu bayobora kwa RPF (Guichaoua, 2004) ngo arahima Habyarimana: amakosa ntabwo yabaye aya RPF ahubwo yabaye aya Habyarimana n'uwo mu premiere we, bombi n'abaturage benshi bahasiga agatwe, RPF ifata ingoma abaturage batishwe baba ingaruzwamuheto!
Niba n'aba bategetsi b'Uburundi balishe abo mu mashyaka yabo bashoboye, bakagombye kuba intwali bakemera bagatanga ikigarasha cy'umukandida mubo basigaranye kigatsindwa amatora, nuko andi mashyaka afite abashoboye agafata ubutegetsi agatangira ikivi (mandat) gishya mu mulima w'Uburundi bikulikije Itegeko-nshinga lyabo Mandela yabafashije kwandikira Arusha. 

Uvuze ko nyili urugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!


To: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
From: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:27:26 +0000
Subject: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Burindi sezera East African Community
 
Ibyo  muri East African Community ntibyumvikana:
 
Hashize iminsi mike Kenya itewe n'abaterroristes, hapafa bantu benshi. Ibi kandi byabaye inshuro nyinshi. Ibindi bihugu byo muri East Africa ntibyatabara, ikibazo bagihariye Kenya.
 
None dore ibibera mu Burundi, Ibindi bihugu bya East Africa biti irwarize.
 
Bya bindi byose bahora baririmba bya peace and security ni amagambo gusa.
 
U Burundi bwari bukwiye gusezera muri East African Community  kuko bigaragara ko Kagame yashyizeho abantu bo gutera imvururu mu Burundi no gutea ubwoba abaturage baboshya  ngo bahungire mu Rwanda, bityo bihe ingufu Kagame wiyumvamo ko ariwe mutegetsi wemewe mu karere. Ibi kandi yanabikoze kuri RDC aho yakomeje kuvuga ko ibibazo byayo ari ukubera governance mbi. No ku kibazo cy'Uburundi, Kagame ni uko abibona.




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