[haguruka] RE: Drôle de cérémonie s'il en est!

 

Kijyana Liza et cies, mutuyambe mutumulikira nyabuna! 

Ko tubona aba nabo (video mwohereje) bikoreye ibiseke, aho ntibaba nabo bagiye muli parlement gusaba ihinduka lya constitution ngo HE Nkurunziza nawe azakomeze ayobore nk'uko iwacu twabikoze, abazungu bakanezerwa bumiwe?  

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De : liza.kez@yahoo.com <liza.kez@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : mercredi 2 janvier 2019 18:04
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Objet : Drôle de cérémonie s'il en est!

 

Abasobanukiwe n'ibyo guterekera mutuvungurire kuri sens y'ibi:

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[haguruka] RE: Tweet from Tom Ndahiro (@TomNdahiro)

 

Avec sarcasme, un bambin demanderait aux aimables chercheurs RPF ou pro RPF qui jasent sur Bagosora et consors comment le tribunal UN a pu faire tout ceci  http://unictr.irmct.org/sites/unictr.org/files/case-documents/ictr-98-41/appeals-chamber-judgements/en/111214.pdf , tout en ratant/ loupant l'auteur de l'element declencheur du genocide qu'est la destruction en vol de l'avion du president Habyarimana le 6/04/1994. Il y a la un serieux probleme de logique:

TPIR etait-il un tribunal avec des hommes de loi bien qualifies, ou une boutique de paysans avec une mission au dela de leur savoir/capacite, ou autrement une certaine France aurait-elle manoeuvre pour embrouiller le travail UN a travers une ruse qui empeche l'examen de  l'element cle permettant l'identification de ceux qui ont declenche le genocide?

A la lecture de Rwanda et génocides : L'embarras des «chercheurs » par Michel ROBARDEY  et  RWANDA : Les cadeaux de Noël de la France à Kagame , il y a lieu de penser que  notre Rwanda semble devenu comme un terrain inculte, sans proprietaire scrupuleux pour inactiver tous les vents et etres malfaisants et manipulateurs au-dedans et en dehors.  

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Envoyé : dimanche 6 janvier 2019 13:46
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Objet : Re: Tweet from Tom Ndahiro (@TomNdahiro)

 

"Kuri Gérard Prunier, ntabwo ari Rwigyema gusa umwega Paul Kagame yifurije urupfu kugira ngo agere ku ntebe y'icyubahiro. Ngo "ntawe urya umureti atabanje kumena amagi" ra! Aha Prunier aributsa ubuhamya buvuga ko Gen Romeo Dallaire yabonaga Paul Kagame ashimishijwe na Jenoside yakorerwaga abatutsi baribarayobotse ubutegetsi bwa Habyarimana ... Prunier, ati mu by'ukuri Paul Kagame ntiyigeze ababazwa na gato n'abanyarwanda batemagurwaga muri Jenoside: 80.000 by'abahutu bishwe ubu byabaye icyaha gikomeye kubibuka no kubaririra; n'abatutsi bari hagati ya 700.000 na 800.000 ubu bafatwa nk'igitambo cyari ngombwa mu kubaka u Rwanda rushyashya rwa nyuma ya Jenoside. Prunier arangeraho ati, ibi wabyumva neza uganiriye n'abayoboke b'amashyirahamwe y'abacikacumu b'abatutsi batacyibona na gato mu Rwanda rushyashya rwa PK. 

Arangiza ahamya ko Jenoside yabereye Kagame amahirwe adasanzwe ya politike, amahirwe PK yashoboye kubyaza umusaruro mu bugome buhanitse: kuzimangatanya burundu abatutsi bari mu Rwanda mbere ya Jenoside maze akabasimbuza abahungutse bajijutse, bakunda kumena amaraso, bamwubaha, ... ubu bigaragara buri wese ko ari bo bonyine intambara ya FPR yarigamije guteza imbere.

"Pourtant, comme le fit remarquer le général canadien Dallaire, commandant des forces inactives de l'ONU, le chef du FPR ne semblait pas ému outre mesure par la passivité internationale. Ni d'ailleurs par le génocide lui-même. Dallaire, qui ferraillait avec New York pour essayer qu'on lui donne l'ordre d'intervenir, avait l'impression d'être plus engagé que le Rwandais. En fait, il semble bien que Kagame n'ait jamais eu trop le souci de ses concitoyens. Parmi eux, il y avait 80 000 Hutus que l'on passera par profits et pertes plus tard dans les commémorations du génocide – qui deviendra "le génocide des Tutsi". Quant aux morts Tutsi – entre 700 et 800 000 –, ils semblent avoir été plus considérés comme les "dommages collatéraux" d'un processus de modernisation du Rwanda que mettra en œuvre le nouveau pouvoir post-génocidaire. Il suffit, pour s'en rendre compte, de parler avec les membres des associations de survivants Tutsi qui n'ont aucune illusion sur la question.

Car le génocide a été, pour Kagame, une énorme chance politique qu'il saura exploiter avec habileté. Il a abouti à échanger une population de Tutsi "indigènes", enracinée dans la compromettante réalité rwandaise, pour une autre population de Tutsi de l'étranger, beaucoup plus éduquée, militarisée et disciplinée, qui s'avérera comme le peuple idéal du projet FPR.""

Soma inyandiko yose ku mugereka hasi aha:

Le dimanche 6 janvier 2019 à 12:05:48 UTC+1, liza.kez@yahoo.com <liza.kez@yahoo.com> a écrit :

Si je me mets dans la peau d'un enquêteur, écarter une piste doit procurer à l'enquêteur une certaine "peace of mind" mais aussi redoubler sa soif d'explorer les pistes probables restantes...

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 12:58 PM, liza.kez@yahoo.com

<liza.kez@yahoo.com> wrote:

Puisque une piste a été magistralement écartée  et que vous vous êtes engagés à nous trouver le tireur, trouvez-le-nous! Cherchez aussi du côté de Bagosora/Kanziga ou d'autres pistes...

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On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 10:08 AM, pierre foucher

<akagera@hotmail.fr> wrote:

Amusant! Vous devriez lire l'ordonnance de non-lieu qui a été rendue sous forme de cadeau de Noël à Kagame. Elle précise avant toutes choses que cette hypothèse doit être écartée pour ne pas dire qu'elle est ridicule!

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De : liza.kez@yahoo.com <liza.kez@yahoo.com>
Envoyé : dimanche 6 janvier 2019 07:50:16
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Objet : Tweet from Tom Ndahiro (@TomNdahiro)

 

M. Akagera,

Que pensez-vous de l'assertion de ce blanc-diseur-de-vérité à propos des missiles que Bagosora a utilisé pour trucider Kinani?

Tom Ndahiro (@TomNdahiro) tweeted at 10:32 PM on Fri, Jan 04, 2019:  But you know your friends were behind the downing of your boss in #Rwanda (Juvenal Habyarimana) and you said it 23 years ago https://t.co/G4xttV8Gmu  (https://twitter.com/TomNdahiro/status/1081287367670095873?s=09)    Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download?s=13

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[haguruka] [Correction] Austria’s Chancellor is 31 years old!

 

Austria's Chancellor is 31 years old!

Austria on December 12, 2018, made history by electing the world's youngest chancellor, who is 31 years old. His name is Sebastian Kurz.
Before those elections, he was the country's foreign minister.
While our youth are contented with being used, praise singers and be special assistants on social media, youth elsewhere are disrupting the status quo, pushing for innovation, changing the narrative and pushing for new frontiers.
From Facebook to Snapchat and Taxify, these tech giants were founded by millennials who are youth.
Mark Zukerberg is just 32 years old and the youngest billionaire in the world.
The bar has been raised in Austria, that elected a 31 year old man, as its leader.
A 31 year old man in Africa, is probably in his parents house, unemployed, broke, eating free food and not bothered.
The 31 year old Africans are feeling big, supporting politicians (who directly or indirectly put us in the mess we are in), on Facebook without seeing the nexus between the failed leadership and present unemployment predicament.
I weep for our youth, many of whom are wasting away, forgetting that time waits for no one.
The condition in Africa is not helping matters though, and then my generation is not ready to push for change.
Those who have bank jobs, think they are on top of the world, forgetting that the owners of the banks, were billionaires at their age.
The women get married, and drive their husband's cars, and think they have arrived.
I ask myself and other young people reading this, what are you doing with your life? Are you happy with the way you are at the moment? What are you doing to push for true change?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Kurz.

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[haguruka] Australia’s Chancellor is 31 years old!

 

Australia's Chancellor is 31 years old!

Austria on December 12, 2018, made history by electing the world's youngest chancellor, who is 31 years old. His name is Sebastian Kurz.
Before those elections, he was the country's foreign minister.
While our youth are contented with being used, praise singers and be special assistants on social media, youth elsewhere are disrupting the status quo, pushing for innovation, changing the narrative and pushing for new frontiers.
From Facebook to Snapchat and Taxify, these tech giants were founded by millennials who are youth.
Mark Zukerberg is just 32 years old and the youngest billionaire in the world.
The bar has been raised in Austria, that elected a 31 year old man, as its leader.
A 31 year old man in Africa, is probably in his parents house, unemployed, broke, eating free food and not bothered.
The 31 year old Africans are feeling big, supporting politicians (who directly or indirectly put us in the mess we are in), on Facebook without seeing the nexus between the failed leadership and present unemployment predicament.
I weep for our youth, many of whom are wasting away, forgetting that time waits for no one.
The condition in Africa is not helping matters though, and then my generation is not ready to push for change.
Those who have bank jobs, think they are on top of the world, forgetting that the owners of the banks, were billionaires at their age.
The women get married, and drive their husband's cars, and think they have arrived.
I ask myself and other young people reading this, what are you doing with your life? Are you happy with the way you are at the moment? What are you doing to push for true change?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Kurz.

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