[haguruka] TR: (correction enrichie) Ese twavana iki mu mateka radio ishakwe yatangaje, cyakwerekana inzira yo kwubaka Urwanda ruzima (moderne)?

 

Bavandimwe, ni  mufungure izi link eshatu, maze mwunve ukuntu inaralibonye zacu zigaragaza umuco mubi w'abanyarwanda.

 1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FSFRORsiL0 Barahinyura ati: ''Ese ko tuvuga Rwigema Fred, Mazimhaka Patrick we urwo yapfuye nirwo yali akwiye?" 

 2. http://www.inyenyerinews.org/afrika/radio-inyenyeri-kagame-numugore-baratamayanjwa-ngo-mu-rwanda-ibyishimo-10-02-2018/

 3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HuoUE4FvlU  "Harya ubutegetsi buvuye mu nkangara nabwo ni democrasi?" Twagiramungu Faustin

Biragaragara ko buli wese abishatse yagira uwo yijundika, amwagiliza amabi. Ese aho ntibyaruta

Rwanda ihisemwo kubakira izi nzigo zose uruhimbi, nyuma igatangira bushya mu bwunvikane bw'abayo bose, yilinda kurema izindi nzigo?

Murebe kandi muli iyi posting yacu ili munsi aha ibyo twakosoye twashyize mu mutuku. 

Turabakunda mwese.

"Nos hommes d'etat, nos politiciens et nos militaires sont bien des hommes hors du commun. Mais les ordinaires rwandais serions plus heureux si "ceux hors du commun" se montraient plus humains a notre egard ". 

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Objet : [haguruka] Ese twavana iki mu mateka radio ishakwe yatangaje, cyakwerekana inzira yo kwubaka Urwanda ruzima (moderne)?

 

 

Radio itahuka, tubakuliye ingofero kuko za nzovu zera (elephants blancs nka Rwandair, KCC, etc.)  bwana Jozefu Ngarambe yavuze zitangiye gushoka akabehe kacu kalimwo ibitaduhagije http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2018/02/08/u-rwanda-rwahindutse-mafia-state-abafite-ingufu-bakomeje-kunyunyuza-rubanda. 

Dushimiye kandi bwana F. Munyabagisha, nawe wavuze nkuko natwe twabibwiye abo muli Radio itahuka kuli 03/02/2018 muli commentaire twakoze tumaze kunva  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2018/02/02/igihe-niki-ngo-intwari-zitabare-u-rwanda--iyozabwonko-rya-kagame-ndarirambiwe ). Koko nta Rwanda rwaliho muli 1600, 1700, 1800 bityo rero kugereranya ingoma ya cyami ngo yamaze imyaka 400 igihe iy'abahutu yamaze imyaka 32 gusa ntibibe ikigereranyo gikwiye. Gipfukiranya byinshi. Koko agahugu k'Abanyiginya kabayeho kera, aliko ali gato, gakikijwe n'izindi mhugu. Agahugu k'Abanyiginya kagiye kiyagura, mu ntambara aho kagiraga amahirwe n'amayere yo gutsinda izindi mhugu. Imhugu zatsindwaga, abazitegekaga baralimburwaga (bunyamaswa) hagasigara gusa rubanda giseseka yayobokaga yunva ko ntakundi kongera gutekereza ibyo kuzagira abayobozi bayivukamwo kundi. Nanone ingoma nyiginya ntiyitesheje n'akavuno ko gukomeza ingoma, ikoloniza esprit mu guhamya ko ugomba gutegeka (kuba umwami) avukana imbuto, ubwo buhangange bukamuha uburenganzira bwose ku kubaho no kwicwa kwa byose na bose. Iyo rero abantu bagizwe gutyo, nta gitangaza ko mbene iyo ngoma iganza igihe kirekire, kuko ushize agatwe ejuru bahita bakamena. Aha niho twese abazi Urwanda dushimira abarwanashyaka ba 1955-1961, nubwo ubu bajugunywe mu misarani, aliko bahakoze akazi gakomeye. Tukanagomba gushimira Rudahigwa, wabaye intwali ashaka kudakora atyo, yemera ko aho kwica Gitera bakwica ikibimutera. 

Aliko bulya abanyarwanda barwanira ubutegetsi baba bazi amateka, bayakoresha mu kinyoma, amanyanga, ubugome n'ubusambo (umuco wacu mubi): ni ubwo bulyo bwaranze cyami n'ibisigisigi bindi byakulikiranye za republika (aho za machiavelismes zihanitse ziboneka henshi kandi muli benshi) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-ishakwe/2018/02/08/abanditsi-jk-gasana-na-fx-munyarugerero-na-bo-bavuze-kuri-kudeta-ya-73). 

Ingoma zatsinzwe zose, abaziyoboraga barazimye burundu. Abali bakomeye kwa Rutalindwa ku gihe cya Rucunshu, ntawasigaye Musinga yimye. Bwana Kayibanda, bwana Habyarimana bafashe ubutegetsi nabo bashatse gukuraho elites z'abo batsinze, batwaye ingoma. Abashefu n'ababungilije (elites) baliho muli za 1959 benshi bajyanye na Kigeli Ndahindurwa, iyo mu Nduga yicanwa na Kayibanda (mu gihe cya coup d'etat 1973). N'ubu kandi iyo kwa Habyarimana yajyanye nawe, ingoma iliho ije. Byunvikane kandi ko hatabura nyine n'abadahuye n'izo ngoma babigwamo, nkuko utsinda igiti-nganzamarumbo aba azi ko hali uduto twimerera nganzamarumbo ili buhitane aliko ntatwiteho. Ngiyo Rwanda, ngibyo n'ibyakagombye gukosorwa, niba hali abashaka kuzubaka Urwanda rutali uru tubona, rwagize kugeza ubu ubutegetsi bunwa amaraso kugira ngo bubeho kandi bukomere.

Bavandimwe, niba hali aho twibeshye ngaho nimutumulikire, aliko nyabuna mubworoherane.  

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[haguruka] Ese twavana iki mu mateka radio ishakwe yatangaje, cyakwerekana inzira yo kwubaka Urwanda ruzima (moderne)?

 

Radio itahuka, tubakuliye ingofero kuko za nzovu zera (elephants blancs nka Rwandair, KCC, etc.)  bwana Jozefu Ngarambe yavuze zitangiye gushoka akabehe kacu kalimwo ibitaduhagije http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2018/02/08/u-rwanda-rwahindutse-mafia-state-abafite-ingufu-bakomeje-kunyunyuza-rubanda. 

Dushimiye kandi bwana F. Munyabagisha, nawe wavuze nkuko natwe twabibwiye abo muli Radio itahuka kuli 03/02/2018 muli commentaire twakoze tumaze kunva  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2018/02/02/igihe-niki-ngo-intwari-zitabare-u-rwanda--iyozabwonko-rya-kagame-ndarirambiwe ). Koko nta Rwanda rwaliho muli 1600, 1700, 1800 bityo rero kugereranya ingoma ya cyami ngo yamaze imyaka 400 igihe iy'abahutu yamaze imyaka 32 gusa atali ikigereranyo gikwiye. Gipfukiranya byinshi. Koko agahugu k'Abanyiginya kabayeho kera, aliko ali gato, gakikijwe n'izindi mhugu. Agahugu k'Abanyiginya kagiye kiyagura, mu ntambara aho kagiraga amahirwe n'amayere yo gutsinda izindi mhugu. Imhugu zatwindwaga, abazitegekaga baralimburwaga (bunyamaswa) hagasigara gusa rubanda giseseka yayobokaga yunva ko ntakundi kongera gutekereza ibyo kuzagira abayobozi babavukamwo kundi. Noneho ingoma nyiginya ntiyitesheje n'akavuno ko gukomeza ingoma, ikoloniza esprit mu guhamya ko ugomba gutegeka (kuba umwami) avukana imbuto, ubwo buhangange bukamuha uburenganzira bwose ku kubaho no kwicwa kwa byose na bose. Iyo rero abantu bagizwe gutyo, nta gitangaza ko mbene iyo ngoma iganza igihe kirekire, kuko ushize agatwe ejuru bahita bakamena. Aha niho twese abazi Urwanda dushimira abarwanashyaka ba 1955-1961, nubwo ubu bajugunywe mu misarani, aliko bahakoze akazi gakomeye. Tukanagomba gushimira Rudahigwa, wabaye intwali ashaka kudakora atyo, yemera ko aho kwica Gitera bakwica ikibimutera. 

Aliko bulya abanyarwanda barwanira ubutegetsi baba bazi amateka, bayakoresha mu kinyoma, amanyanga, ubugome n'ubusambo (umuco wacu mubi): ni ubwo bulyo bwaranze cyami n'ibisigisigi bindi byakulikiranye za republika (aho za machiavelismes zihanitse ziboneka henshi kandi muli benshi) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-ishakwe/2018/02/08/abanditsi-jk-gasana-na-fx-munyarugerero-na-bo-bavuze-kuri-kudeta-ya-73). 

Ingoma zatsinzwe, abaziyoboraga barazimye burundu. Abali bakomeye kwa Rutalindwa ku gihe cya Rucunshu, ntawasigaye Musinga yimye. Bwana Kayibanda, bwana Habyarimana bafashe ubutegetsi nabo bashatse gukuraho elites z'abo batsinze, batwaye ingoma. Abashefu n'ababungilije (elites) baliho muli za 1959 bose balirukanwe hamwe na Kigeli Ndahindurwa, iyo mu Nduga yicanwa na Kayibanda (mu gihe cya coup d'etat 1973). N'ubu kandi iyo kwa Habyarimana yajyanye nawe, ingoma iliho ije. Byunvikane kandi ko hatabura nyine n'abadahuye n'izo ngoma babigwamo nkuko utsinda igiti-nganzamarumbo aba azi ko hali uduto twimerera nganzamarumbo ili buhitane aliko ntatwitabwaho. Ngiyo Rwanda, ngibyo n'ibyakagombye gukosorwa, niba hali abashaka kuzubaka Urwanda rutali uru tubona, rwagize kugeza ubu ubutegetsi

bunwa amaraso kugira ngo bubeho kandi bukomere.

Bavandimwe, niba hali aho twibeshye ngaho nimutumulikire, aliko nyabuna mubworoherane.  

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[haguruka] Ese kuvuga ibiliho bibishye bigomba kwica umutumirano, bavandimwe?

 

Bwana Noble Marara aratanga urumuli muli iyi link.

http://www.inyenyerinews.org/politiki/radio-inyenyeri-intwari-mu-rwanda-na-kagame-ngo-azaba-intwari-nawe-hehehe-03-02-2018/

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[haguruka] Dukomeze tuganire, bavandimwe!

 

Radio ishakwe, turabashimira ku byo muduhishuliye muli izi posting zombi: biteye ubwoba http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-ishakwe/2018/01/24/kudeta-yo-muri-73-kwerekana-ibinyoma-abayikoze-batamitse-abanyarwanda;    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-ishakwe/2018/01/30/kudeta-yo-muri-73-ihotorwa-ryabanyapolitiki-bo-muri-repubulika-ya-mbere.

Aliko se ni kuki abanyarwanda bose, ali abo mu Rukiga ali abo mu Nduga, bacecetse ibi bintu, maze ahubwo bakirwa  bahamiliza muli za animations, bakorana imiganda, n'ibindi? Aho igisubizo nticyaba ali kubura democrasi idafifitse  i Rwanda kuva muli cyami na gikoroni kugeza magingo aya, ukuli kwakogombye gushyirwa ku karubanda kukajyanwa guhishwa kwa Mutware bagusabisha ubuhake, ubutabera bugahindurwa indili icura amatiku?

Natwe twemera iyi myanzuro 2 iva muli aya ma posting yanyu, twongeyeho duke: 

 1. Koko abanyarwanda ni bene-mugabo-umwe, aliwe Semuhanuka-Nyirarunyonga-Kamegeli-Ngunda, ni kuvuga ko bashingira ku kinyoma n'amanyanga, bakagira ubugome n'ubusambo byinshi. 

 2. Abanyepolitiki, kuva ku ngoma ya cyami kugeza magingo aya, nibyo bashigisha bakoresha ubulyo bwinshi ubutegetsi bubashyira mu ntoki. Agatsiko k'abanyepolotiki kabuze imbaraga n'imbunda zirakalya ntakundi, zitaretse na bamwe mu badakorana politiki nabo aliko bahuje amoko cyangwa se akarere! 

Ibi mwerekanye mu ma-postings, radio ishakwe, bitumye abenshi twunva ibyo twabonaga ntidusobanukirwe mu byakorwaga muli 1991-1994 n'abo muli opposition, abo muli MRNDD n'abo muli RPF, ndetse n'ukuntu bashakisha ibyaha nyuma ya jenosidi bakomatanya (globalisation) cyangwa se batwerera icyaha abahohotewe (blaming victims) n'abere

badashaka. Biduhishuliye igituma RPF yita cyane mu byo gushaka intwaro, ntibe inashobora kwemera opposition, ali mu Rwanda ali no hanze: izi ibyashyikiye Rudahigwa na Ndahindurwa haje za parmehutu, yabonye uko Kayibanda yazimije amashyaka n'ibyamushyikiye abuze imbunda muli 1972-1973, izi ibyagwiliye Habyarimana guhera 1991 abonze akemera

multipartisme.

Hali uwagira ati "Abahirwa mu banyarwanda ni abitaza ibya polotiki, bakaba/bakazaba inzirakarengane z'uturere n'amoko biterwa n'ibivuzwe hejuru aha". Uretse ko byaba ali kwihenda, kuko iyo udakora polotiki, ilitumira ikagusanga iwawe mu buliri ikagutsindamwo. Ni uko uturere n'amoko byagilizwa ubugiranabi bidafitemwo uruhare na ruke, rwose nta n'imbaraga bigira zo kurengera abo polotiki ikumbanyije, igihe abo ifatiye imbehe/ibere bisekera babyina aka-mucerenge. 

Mukomere bavandimwe, icyokora mushyize ahagaragara aba muvuga bakili ubu mu ishyaka lya Habyarimana kimwe n'abagize uruhare muli aliya mabi yo muli 1972-1975 byagilira akamaro abanditsi b'amateka n'abarerera igihugu.

Mukomere.

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[haguruka] Mukomera radio ishakwe

 

Radio ishakwe na bwana Ngarambe turabasuhuza. Iyo dushoboye twunva ibiganiro byanyu, mureke rero tubasabe udusabanuro mu ngingo 4.

1 Haliya mugereranya MRND/CDR na FPR/DMI aho ntibyaba byiza muvuze MRND [-MDR]/FAR na FPR [-UNAR]/DMI. Kuko DMI zaba ingabo z'umwami cyangwa zikaba iza FPR. Naho CDR lyali ishyaka: ntidusobanukirwa rero niba alilyo lyali urwego rw'umutekano rwa MRND, keretse niba FAR aliyo yahindutse CDR.

2. Ibi bituzana ku biganiro byanyu bibili

a) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-ishakwe/2018/01/26/edprs-2-kuki-fprdmi-yahuzwe-guhanika-igipimo-cyumuvuduko-wubukungu. Muti ntibageze kucyo biyemeje mu bukungu. Nyamara tunabona n'ibi muli iyi video:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHik7fG7P0 . None mubona minista Gatete atabarusha ingingo, igihe uhamya ko yahagalitse jenosidi Urwanda rushobora kumuhemba tuliya dushandiko buli kwezi, rukanamushishira kuliya bivugwa?

b) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radio-ishakwe/2018/01/17/tugaruke-kuri-muyaga-yo-muri-73-yateguraga-kudeta 
. Tuhigira byinshi. Aliko se bigenda bite ngo umuntu icyo yanga alicyo ashyira ku ruhimbi rwe? Nsekalije ntiyali atunze umunyenduga? Lizinde ntiyali mushuti wa Nyirabihogo? Bagosara ntiyali atunze umututsikazi? Bizimungu na Kanyarengwe ntibafatanyije na ba Sendashonga gusanga abatutsi ngo babagarure mu Rwanda, iyo mhilita iza guhitana Habyarimana? None se niba abakora politiki i Rwanda (abacakiye ubutegetsi) batikinira bimwe bya Semuhanuka-Nyirarunyonga-Kamegeli-Ngunda, mubihuza mute n'ibi muvuga cyangwa se tubona? Kuki mubivana ku runturuntu n'amanyanga bya muntu  (inganzo y'abanyepolotiki) ku giti cye/mu gatsiko ke, mukabigereka ku turere no ku moko, nabyo birenganwa (blaming victims)? Buliya se abo kwa A. Rwigara si abacikacumu nyamara ntibayacekwa hamwe na ba Ingabire kuko batunviye baliya babyina guhagalika jenosidi. None se ubu ninde uliho uvugira abo bali mu kaga, ahubwo buli mukaraza wese ntiyisabira? N'akahe karere se, ni ubuhe bwoko se burenganya cyangwa se buvugira abagorwa?

Twabuze democrasi.

3. Mu gihe cya MDR-parmehutu, musobanura ko habaye amakosa ko aliko ibintu byali bisaranganijwe neza. Ko kandi abali bashinzwe umutekano alibo bali bafite ijambo mu gihugu. Ni byiza, aliko ku byumutekano umuntu yakeka ko n'ubu aliko bimeze. Aliko byarusha gusobanuka mwerekanye itandukaniro mw'isaranganwa lyali lyiza muli administration no mu bigo bya leta, mudushyiliraho amalisti y'abali muli iyo myanya naho bavukaga, mu gihe cy'ubutegetsi butikanije no mu gihe cy'ubwikanije. Twemera rwose ko abatutsi bahejwe muli administration: nta prefet nta burgmestri wabo twunvise, aliko se na Nduga niko byayigendekeye? Mukore nko muli Butare, prefecture rebelle (Guichaoua, 2004) bagerageje kwerekana ukuntu Butare yali yaligaruliwe n'abakiga (p.67-70) kandi ko yali ihejwe mu mashuli, uretse ko basa naho batabonye ibimenyetso simusiga. Munavuga n'ikindi cyiza, ko inzego z'umutekano zose alizo zali zifite ijambo muli republika ya Kayibanda. Kuki none muli republika ya kabili, imyunvire ihinduka, ugasanga mwe na ba Guichaoua murashaka kuligasura abatali bahuye n'izo nzego, nyamara mukingira ikibaba bamwe mubali bazikuliye nka ba Giti-mujisho? 

4 Turabashima cyane gutangaza iby'i Burundi kwa Micombero, abafransa, na Habyarimana. Kuki ali ubu mubivuze? Kuki batarega/batareze abafransa ibyo, ahubwo bakaba bashakishiliza aho TPIR yarangije imanza, hasigaye gusa amatiku ya muntu ubu ageze naho leta y'ubufransa ishinjwa gukorera muli mercenaire Bob Denard! 

Ese Rwanda ishobora guca amacenga no guhimana bya kiremwa muntu byuje isi yose, maze ireme ijuru cyangwa ibyiza byaba kworoherana, tugashaka uko twatambuka neza igihe tukili kuli iyi Si tulimwo kigenzi.  

Mutubere imfura mutujijure kandi murakoze.

Ngiyo na link y'Itahuka, ifite nayo ibisobanuro bitali bike:  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/radioitahuka/2018/02/02/igihe-niki-ngo-intwari-zitabare-u-rwanda--iyozabwonko-rya-kagame-ndarirambiwe

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