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Tuesday, 4 October 2016

[haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

 

Ambaaa!!!! Si ibi nakubwiye se? 

Nta na hamwe New RNC ivuga ko ari RPF yakoze iriya genicide yakorewe abahutu. Ni mugihe kandi. Umuntu nka Rudasingwa wari umunyamabanga wa RPF kuva yashingwa kugeza ifashe ubutegetsi, akaba DirCab wa Kagame mu gihe RPF yahooreraga ku bahutu mu Rda no mu gihe ingambi zasenywaga, ashobora ate kwerura ngo yemeze, atigushijemo, ko RPF yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abahutu (mu gihe bitagishidikanywa ko MRND itigeze igira bene uwo mugambi wo gutsemba abatutsi).

Abakoze genocide yakorewe abatutsi bashyikirijwe inkiko za Loni, iz'uRda, iz'anahanga, abandi barishwe, nu gihe abandi bagishakishwa uruhindu. Ni hari unwicanyi waba uzi ukihishe muvugiruze induru cg umutungire agatoki ziriya nzego zose narondoye.

FDU na MRND bifashe. Iyi acharnemt ufite kuri iyi miryango yombi imeze nka acharnement RPF yigeze kugira kuri Eglise Catholique yo mu Rwanda ngo niyemere ko yakoze genocige kandi bizwi neza ko icyaha cyose ari gatozi.

Kuva nta gihamya ufite ko organization iyi n'iyi yari ifite umugambi wo kwishora mu bwicanyi runska, uhera he utwerera iyo organization ubwo bwicanyi?

Niba wumvaga ko iyi myitwarire wadukanye ari agakiza uzarisha mpaka kakugejeje ku butegetse mu Rda, ongera utekereze witonze maze wisubireho iyo myumvire itaragutesha isaro.

Reka ndekere aha, n'abandi bashyireho akabo mu kugukebura.

Nzinink

On Oct 4, 2016, at 2:18 AM, Umunsi umunsi@bluewin.ch [AVM_Populi] <AVM_Populi@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 

Aka noneho ni agahomamunwa! Urataruka ukava kuri kimwe ukajya ku kindi. Hanyuma se iyo New RNC igera n'aho ivuga ba nyempara bayo, iba ibasaba ikigongwe? Ngaho se noneho FDU Inkingi nibarute, yi ivuge ko ingoma ya Habyarimana yakoze amahano.

Kabeho.

Le 3 oct. 2016 à 23:31, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :

Bwana Nkiko,

Bwana Munyabagisha yabivuze ukuri ko iyi ngingo nshobora kuyigarukaho bibaye ngombwa. 

Uragira uti: 

"Ko New RNC yatuye ikavuga ko ingoma ya FPR yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu, FDU Inkingi iratinya iki?"

New RNC ntiyigeze ishinja RPF gukora genocide yakorewe abahutu.
Ongera usome rya tangazo ryabo maze utwereke aho biriya uvuga wabivanye.

Ramuka.

On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch> wrote:

Nzinik,

Ikibazo cya FDU Inkingi n'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ni uko ivuga ko iyemera ariko wayibaza uwayiyoboye, ikaramu ikanyerera cyangwa ururimi rukagobwa. Ntabwo abatutsi biyishe, barishwe kandi bishwe n'inga yariho. Kuko n'ubwo Leta yahubanganye nyuma y'uguhanurwa kw'indege n'urupfu rwa Prezida Habyarimana, ntabwo Leta yazimye burundu. Ni ikimenyimenyi nyuma y'iminsi itatu hagiyeho Leta iyobowe na Prezida wa Republika mushya Sindikubwabo wakomokaga muri MRND. Ministri w'intebe akaba Kambanda wo muri MDR, n'abandi ba ministri bakomokaga no mu yandi mashyaka ya PSD, PL na PDC. Iyo Leta yagenderaga kuri protocole y'amashyaka yo muri 1992 mo kw'Itegeko nshinga ryo muri 1991 ryahaga Prezida wa Republika ububasha kurusha izindi nzego za Leta. Nibutse ko nta mututsi n'umwe wahamagariwe kwinjira muri Gouvernement. Nibutse kandi ko mbere y'uko n'iyo Leta ijyaho, hariho ubuyobozi bwa Leta bwihishe buyobowe n'ibikomerezwa bya MRND bizwi.

Muri make, ntabwo ugupfa kwa Habyarimana kwavanyeho ingoma ya MRND, ariyo ye.

Abatutsi bishwe n'iyo ngoma, nta n'ubwo yagerageje gukumira ubwicanyi. Kuki FDU Inkingi itavuga ko bishwe n'iyo ngoma niba atari guhishira itsembabwoko bw'ingoma bonse? Ko New RNC yatuye ikavuga ko ingoma ya FPR yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu, FDU Inkingi iratinya iki?

Le 3 oct. 2016 à 03:20, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :

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Bwana Nkiko uragira uti:

"Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU-Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi [igakorwa] n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere".

Mu minsi ishize nakweretse inyandiko zivuga zizataziguye ko FDU yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi.
Uribuka uko wansubije?
Waravuze ngo ariya matangazo yose "nitwe" twayateguraga ["nitwe" nahise numva ko bivuga ibikomerezwa byo muri MN-Inkubiri].

Ngirango uribuka ko kuva FDU yashingwa kugeza ejo bundi wowe na bagenzi bawe mushinze Inkubiri, wari mu bayobozi b'imena ba FDU.

Niba ibikubiye mu nyandiko zose za FDU ari ibitekerezo "byanyu", kuva aho muviriye muri FDU wampa urugero rumwe rukumbi rw'ihame rya FDU abayobozi bashya ba FDU bavuguruye bagamije kwitandukanya n'ibitekerezo "byanyu", bityo akaba ari ho uhera ushinja FDU guhakana/gupfobya jenoside yakorewe abatutsi?

Ikindi kintu wagombye gusobanurira abanyarwanda ni iki:

Kuki usaba FDU kwitandukanya na MRND (iregwa gukora jenoside yakorewe abatutsi) ariko ntusabe New RNC/RNC kwitandukanya na RPF (iregwa gukora genoside yakorewe abahutu)?

Uzabaririze hose uzasanga yaba Rudasingwa, yaba Kayumba, Musonera,etc. nta n'umwe muri bariya bantu bahoze muri RPF uvuga ko RPF yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abahutu.

Kubyerekeye MRND ngira ngo urabizi neza ko yaba TPIR (Loni) yaba RPF, bose kugeza ubu babuze gihamya ko MRND yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abatutsi.

Niba rero utabogamiye kuri New RNC, erura usabe mushuti wawe Rudasigwa na bagenzi be kwerura bagashinja RPF gutsemba abahutu.

Niba nta butwari ufite bwo kubikora, hita ufasha hasi MRND ukora amalisiti y'abicanyi waba uzi bahoze muri MRND nk'uko bagenzi bawe bo muri New RNC ari ko babigenje ubwo batangazaga ilisiti y'abantu ngo bagomba kubazwa jenoside yakorewe abahutu (ikozwe na RPF).

Gira amahoro.

NB: Iyi ngingo sinyigarukaho.



From: Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch>
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Bwana Nzinink,

Nta gishya mvuze muri ibi. Uzi impaka zabaye muri FDU mu gihe cya CPR cy'ukwitandukanya na FDRL ya Mudacumura, ukanamenya ko FDU y'ubu ari akana ka RDR kuzuye, ukanongeraho ugucikamo kabiri kwa FDRL mo kabiri mu minsi ishize, ntiwagombye kubaza icyo kibazo. Nta gishya rero.

Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere.

Kabeho.

Le 2 oct. 2016 à 16:43, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :


"Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDLR....", Nkiko Nsengimana.

Ibi bintu njye ndabona ari agahoma munwa.
Mme Ingabire mu byo aregwa na RPF harimo gushinga umutwe wa gisirikare ugizwe n'ahoze muri FDLR.

Bwana Nkiko, wadushyirira ahagaragara gihamya ko FDLR ari igisikari cya FDU? 

Mbaye ngushimiye.

Izi ngabo za FDLR njye mbona zaragowe. Uyu munsi uravuga ko ari iza FDU, mu gihe ejo zari iza Kayumba bukeye bwahi zikaba iza Rukokoma. Igitangaje muri ibi byose ni uko n

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[haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

 

Bwana Nkiko,

Bwana Munyabagisha yabivuze ukuri ko iyi ngingo nshobora kuyigarukaho bibaye ngombwa. 

Uragira uti: 

"Ko New RNC yatuye ikavuga ko ingoma ya FPR yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu, FDU Inkingi iratinya iki?"

New RNC ntiyigeze ishinja RPF gukora genocide yakorewe abahutu.
Ongera usome rya tangazo ryabo maze utwereke aho biriya uvuga wabivanye.

Ramuka.

On Oct 3, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch> wrote:

Nzinik,

Ikibazo cya FDU Inkingi n'itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ni uko ivuga ko iyemera ariko wayibaza uwayiyoboye, ikaramu ikanyerera cyangwa ururimi rukagobwa. Ntabwo abatutsi biyishe, barishwe kandi bishwe n'inga yariho. Kuko n'ubwo Leta yahubanganye nyuma y'uguhanurwa kw'indege n'urupfu rwa Prezida Habyarimana, ntabwo Leta yazimye burundu. Ni ikimenyimenyi nyuma y'iminsi itatu hagiyeho Leta iyobowe na Prezida wa Republika mushya Sindikubwabo wakomokaga muri MRND. Ministri w'intebe akaba Kambanda wo muri MDR, n'abandi ba ministri bakomokaga no mu yandi mashyaka ya PSD, PL na PDC. Iyo Leta yagenderaga kuri protocole y'amashyaka yo muri 1992 mo kw'Itegeko nshinga ryo muri 1991 ryahaga Prezida wa Republika ububasha kurusha izindi nzego za Leta. Nibutse ko nta mututsi n'umwe wahamagariwe kwinjira muri Gouvernement. Nibutse kandi ko mbere y'uko n'iyo Leta ijyaho, hariho ubuyobozi bwa Leta bwihishe buyobowe n'ibikomerezwa bya MRND bizwi.

Muri make, ntabwo ugupfa kwa Habyarimana kwavanyeho ingoma ya MRND, ariyo ye.

Abatutsi bishwe n'iyo ngoma, nta n'ubwo yagerageje gukumira ubwicanyi. Kuki FDU Inkingi itavuga ko bishwe n'iyo ngoma niba atari guhishira itsembabwoko bw'ingoma bonse? Ko New RNC yatuye ikavuga ko ingoma ya FPR yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu, FDU Inkingi iratinya iki?

Le 3 oct. 2016 à 03:20, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :

Uzayigarukaho ni biba ngombwa, kuko illuminatio et salus popili 


Best regards  /  Tout.pour le meilleur / Imhagarike!


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------ Message d'origine------

De: 'Nzinink' via CRES

Date: dim., 2 oct. 2016 8:29 PM

À: CRES Group;

Cc:

Objet:[Collectif CRES], Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube


Bwana Nkiko uragira uti:

"Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU-Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi [igakorwa] n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere".

Mu minsi ishize nakweretse inyandiko zivuga zizataziguye ko FDU yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi.
Uribuka uko wansubije?
Waravuze ngo ariya matangazo yose "nitwe" twayateguraga ["nitwe" nahise numva ko bivuga ibikomerezwa byo muri MN-Inkubiri].

Ngirango uribuka ko kuva FDU yashingwa kugeza ejo bundi wowe na bagenzi bawe mushinze Inkubiri, wari mu bayobozi b'imena ba FDU.

Niba ibikubiye mu nyandiko zose za FDU ari ibitekerezo "byanyu", kuva aho muviriye muri FDU wampa urugero rumwe rukumbi rw'ihame rya FDU abayobozi bashya ba FDU bavuguruye bagamije kwitandukanya n'ibitekerezo "byanyu", bityo akaba ari ho uhera ushinja FDU guhakana/gupfobya jenoside yakorewe abatutsi?

Ikindi kintu wagombye gusobanurira abanyarwanda ni iki:

Kuki usaba FDU kwitandukanya na MRND (iregwa gukora jenoside yakorewe abatutsi) ariko ntusabe New RNC/RNC kwitandukanya na RPF (iregwa gukora genoside yakorewe abahutu)?

Uzabaririze hose uzasanga yaba Rudasingwa, yaba Kayumba, Musonera,etc. nta n'umwe muri bariya bantu bahoze muri RPF uvuga ko RPF yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abahutu.

Kubyerekeye MRND ngira ngo urabizi neza ko yaba TPIR (Loni) yaba RPF, bose kugeza ubu babuze gihamya ko MRND yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abatutsi.

Niba rero utabogamiye kuri New RNC, erura usabe mushuti wawe Rudasigwa na bagenzi be kwerura bagashinja RPF gutsemba abahutu.

Niba nta butwari ufite bwo kubikora, hita ufasha hasi MRND ukora amalisiti y'abicanyi waba uzi bahoze muri MRND nk'uko bagenzi bawe bo muri New RNC ari ko babigenje ubwo batangazaga ilisiti y'abantu ngo bagomba kubazwa jenoside yakorewe abahutu (ikozwe na RPF).

Gira amahoro.

NB: Iyi ngingo sinyigarukaho.



From: Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch>
To: "collectifcres@googlegroups.com" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Collectif CRES], Fw: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

Bwana Nzinink,

Nta gishya mvuze muri ibi. Uzi impaka zabaye muri FDU mu gihe cya CPR cy'ukwitandukanya na FDRL ya Mudacumura, ukanamenya ko FDU y'ubu ari akana ka RDR kuzuye, ukanongeraho ugucikamo kabiri kwa FDRL mo kabiri mu minsi ishize, ntiwagombye kubaza icyo kibazo. Nta gishya rero.

Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere.

Kabeho.

Le 2 oct. 2016 à 16:43, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :


"Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDLR....", Nkiko Nsengimana.

Ibi bintu njye ndabona ari agahoma munwa.
Mme Ingabire mu byo aregwa na RPF harimo gushinga umutwe wa gisirikare ugizwe n'ahoze muri FDLR.

Bwana Nkiko, wadushyirira ahagaragara gihamya ko FDLR ari igisikari cya FDU? 

Mbaye ngushimiye.

Izi ngabo za FDLR njye mbona zaragowe. Uyu munsi uravuga ko ari iza FDU, mu gihe ejo zari iza Kayumba bukeye bwahi zikaba iza Rukokoma. Igitangaje muri ibi byose ni uko na MN-Inkubiri yawe nayo nabonye muri iyi minsi bivugwa ko irimo kugera FDLR amajanja!

Mfite rwose amatsiko yo kumenya neza ikintu kihishe inyuma y'iri sisibiranyarya hato na hato kandi ridakwiye ku muntu uzwi ko ari inararibonye mu bya politiki.

Nzinink

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Umunsi umunsi@bluewin.ch [AVM_Populi] <AVM_Populi@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 
Munyabagisha uraho! Ngushimiye iki kibazo umbajije. Nyemerera ngusubize.

Uragira uti abatwiciye ni bande. 

Abatwiciye ni ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana n'inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR ya Kagame.

Abatwiciye b'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, indege yarimo imaze guhanurwa na FPR, biraye mu batutsi bari mu gihugu n'abataravugaga rumwe barabatsemba. Ibyo narabibonye, nawe kandi warabibonye. Dukomoka hamwe wabonye ko nta rindi bendera ryari riri i Gitarama uretse nyine irya MRND na CDR. Wabonye amahano n'amarorerwa yakoreshejwe na Kalisiti Nzabonimana amaze kugera iwacu i Gitarama. Mbere y'aho, imihoro yarengeraga abatutsi yarushaga imbaraga iyashakaga kubarimbura. Nyuma aho haziye imbunda z'abo, ibintu byahinduye isura, amahano aragwa, ariyo yiswe itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Mu Rwanda ngo iryo jambo barisimbuje irindi ryitwa jenoside. Sinzi impamvu kandi ijambo itsembabwoko ryumvisha uburemere bw'amahano yaguye mu gihugu.

Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDRL biyobowe n'abonse ingoma ya Habyarimana, nti nimutinyuke, niba koko muharanira abanyarwanda, muvuge ko itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ryakozwe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Nibo mbambwira ngo nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye kuko iyo ngoma yishe abanyarwanda, kandi abatutsi bari mu gihugu ni abanyarwanda buzuye. Abo bantubo buri FDU, nibatabikora ubwo uzamenya uruhare baherereyemo.

Abatwiciye bandi ni inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR na Kagame. 

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Bavandimwe F. Munyabagisha yabivuze invaho, Rwanda izakira umunsi urumuli rwasimbuye umwijima. 

Biligaragaje hamwe yagize ati mwirenganya abanya-Canada, abanya-Amerika ngo baratunda bene wacu (ba Munyakazi, ba Mugesera etc.), ikibazo ni twe ubwacu kiliho

None se nk'abanyarwanda n'abanyepolitiki babo bameze uku bakanirwa bakora batya, murunva umunyamahanga yabakiza ate? Umuntu wabanye n'abandi, bagashinga ishyaka hamwe, none ngo kuko bashwanye agahindura ashaka kubakorera urusyo rushyushye, ntabisobanuro bindi atanze uretse amarangamutima murunva uwo aliwe abanyarwanda bajya inyuma? Uwali mu Rwanda wese w'umunyarwanda azi ko MRND yahagaze 1er july 1991, kandi nta munyarwanda utali ayilimwo, nawe ubwe atiretse. Azi ko yasimbuwe na MRND(D) yahanganye n'amashyaka menshi yandi yakoreye mu Rwanda. 

RPF yo ifashe igihugu, kubera imhanvu mbi za politiki, yakoresheje MRND kugira ngo ishobore gukomatanya no kubeshyera abataragiye mu mashyaka nyuma ya July 1991, kuko itabakunda cyangwa se bakaba bataratarakiye mu mashyaka ya opposition yayi-sympatizaga. None umunyepolotiki wali mu Rwanda 1990-1994, afite n'uruhare mu byayo mashyaka, nawe araserutse ati MRND /CDR niyo yishe abatutsi, ntagize ubutwali nimbura ngo apfe kubiroha ku mashyaka yaliho koko, aliyo MRND(D) na CDR!

Byibukije ibyo twabonye, aho abantu bateraga ibigo bakicamwo abantu, barangiza bagahindukira birahira bati ni mutabre yemwe RPF, dore bene ibigo bishe abantu, ni mubacire imanza za jenosidi.

Rwose F. Munyabagisha yavuze ukuli, ahamya ati tujijuke. Uwaliwe wese waba umugabo, yaba umuhutu, yaba umututsi, yaba umutwa, yaba ishyaka ilyo aliyo lyose lyagaragaza ubumuntu, ukuli n'ubunyangamugayo mu buyobozi bwa Rwanda, atagendera ku manyanga, niwe dukwiye kuyoboka ntayandi macuho yandi turangaliyemwo.  




De : haguruka@yahoogroups.com <haguruka@yahoogroups.com> de la part de Nzinink nzinink@yahoo.com [haguruka] <haguruka@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé : lundi 3 octobre 2016 02:29
À : CRES Group
Objet : [haguruka.com] Re: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube
 
 

Bwana Nkiko uragira uti:

"Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU-Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi [igakorwa] n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere".

Mu minsi ishize nakweretse inyandiko zivuga zizataziguye ko FDU yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi.
Uribuka uko wansubije?
Waravuze ngo ariya matangazo yose "nitwe" twayateguraga ["nitwe" nahise numva ko bivuga ibikomerezwa byo muri MN-Inkubiri].

Ngirango uribuka ko kuva FDU yashingwa kugeza ejo bundi wowe na bagenzi bawe mushinze Inkubiri, wari mu bayobozi b'imena ba FDU.

Niba ibikubiye mu nyandiko zose za FDU ari ibitekerezo "byanyu", kuva aho muviriye muri FDU wampa urugero rumwe rukumbi rw'ihame rya FDU abayobozi bashya ba FDU bavuguruye bagamije kwitandukanya n'ibitekerezo "byanyu", bityo akaba ari ho uhera ushinja FDU guhakana/gupfobya jenoside yakorewe abatutsi?

Ikindi kintu wagombye gusobanurira abanyarwanda ni iki:

Kuki usaba FDU kwitandukanya na MRND (iregwa gukora jenoside yakorewe abatutsi) ariko ntusabe New RNC/RNC kwitandukanya na RPF (iregwa gukora genoside yakorewe abahutu)?

Uzabaririze hose uzasanga yaba Rudasingwa, yaba Kayumba, Musonera,etc. nta n'umwe muri bariya bantu bahoze muri RPF uvuga ko RPF yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abahutu.

Kubyerekeye MRND ngira ngo urabizi neza ko yaba TPIR (Loni) yaba RPF, bose kugeza ubu babuze gihamya ko MRND yari ifite umugambi wo gutsemba abatutsi.

Niba rero utabogamiye kuri New RNC, erura usabe mushuti wawe Rudasigwa na bagenzi be kwerura bagashinja RPF gutsemba abahutu.

Niba nta butwari ufite bwo kubikora, hita ufasha hasi MRND ukora amalisiti y'abicanyi waba uzi bahoze muri MRND nk'uko bagenzi bawe bo muri New RNC ari ko babigenje ubwo batangazaga ilisiti y'abantu ngo bagomba kubazwa jenoside yakorewe abahutu (ikozwe na RPF).

Gira amahoro.

NB: Iyi ngingo sinyigarukaho.



From: Umunsi <umunsi@bluewin.ch>
To: "collectifcres@googlegroups.com" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Collectif CRES], Fw: Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye iri kuri youtube

Bwana Nzinink,

Nta gishya mvuze muri ibi. Uzi impaka zabaye muri FDU mu gihe cya CPR cy'ukwitandukanya na FDRL ya Mudacumura, ukanamenya ko FDU y'ubu ari akana ka RDR kuzuye, ukanongeraho ugucikamo kabiri kwa FDRL mo kabiri mu minsi ishize, ntiwagombye kubaza icyo kibazo. Nta gishya rero.

Umunsi rero wumvise ko FDU Inkingi yavuze ko yemera jenoside yakorewe abatutsi n'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, ukwumva ko abo ba FDRL bo bagumye ku yandi mahame, icyo gihe uzavuge koko ko imwe atari branche politique, indi atari branche militaire y'iya mbere.

Kabeho.

Le 2 oct. 2016 à 16:43, "'Nzinink' via CRES" <collectifcres@googlegroups.com> a écrit :


"Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDLR....", Nkiko Nsengimana.

Ibi bintu njye ndabona ari agahoma munwa.
Mme Ingabire mu byo aregwa na RPF harimo gushinga umutwe wa gisirikare ugizwe n'ahoze muri FDLR.

Bwana Nkiko, wadushyirira ahagaragara gihamya ko FDLR ari igisikari cya FDU? 

Mbaye ngushimiye.

Izi ngabo za FDLR njye mbona zaragowe. Uyu munsi uravuga ko ari iza FDU, mu gihe ejo zari iza Kayumba bukeye bwahi zikaba iza Rukokoma. Igitangaje muri ibi byose ni uko na MN-Inkubiri yawe nayo nabonye muri iyi minsi bivugwa ko irimo kugera FDLR amajanja!

Mfite rwose amatsiko yo kumenya neza ikintu kihishe inyuma y'iri sisibiranyarya hato na hato kandi ridakwiye ku muntu uzwi ko ari inararibonye mu bya politiki.

Nzinink

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Umunsi umunsi@bluewin.ch [AVM_Populi] <AVM_Populi@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:

 
Munyabagisha uraho! Ngushimiye iki kibazo umbajije. Nyemerera ngusubize.

Uragira uti abatwiciye ni bande. 

Abatwiciye ni ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana n'inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR ya Kagame.

Abatwiciye b'ingoma ya MRND/CDR ya Habyarimana, indege yarimo imaze guhanurwa na FPR, biraye mu batutsi bari mu gihugu n'abataravugaga rumwe barabatsemba. Ibyo narabibonye, nawe kandi warabibonye. Dukomoka hamwe wabonye ko nta rindi bendera ryari riri i Gitarama uretse nyine irya MRND na CDR. Wabonye amahano n'amarorerwa yakoreshejwe na Kalisiti Nzabonimana amaze kugera iwacu i Gitarama. Mbere y'aho, imihoro yarengeraga abatutsi yarushaga imbaraga iyashakaga kubarimbura. Nyuma aho haziye imbunda z'abo, ibintu byahinduye isura, amahano aragwa, ariyo yiswe itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi. Mu Rwanda ngo iryo jambo barisimbuje irindi ryitwa jenoside. Sinzi impamvu kandi ijambo itsembabwoko ryumvisha uburemere bw'amahano yaguye mu gihugu.

Iyo mvuga rero, nti ishyaka nka FDU Inkingi n'ingabo zabo za FDRL biyobowe n'abonse ingoma ya Habyarimana, nti nimutinyuke, niba koko muharanira abanyarwanda, muvuge ko itsembabwoko ry'abatutsi ryakozwe n'ingoma ya Habyarimana. Nibo mbambwira ngo nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye kuko iyo ngoma yishe abanyarwanda, kandi abatutsi bari mu gihugu ni abanyarwanda buzuye. Abo bantubo buri FDU, nibatabikora ubwo uzamenya uruhare baherereyemo.

Abatwiciye bandi ni inyeshyamba za FPR n'ingoma ya FPR na Kagame. 

Aha twagize amahirwe akomeye umuntu nka Rudasingwa Theogene warwanye urugamba mu mirimo bamushinze, akaba umunyamabanga mukuru wa FPR, abihamya, kandi akavuga ko ingoma yonse yakoze itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. Ikindi gikomeye kandi gishya n'uko yatubwiye ba nyempara b'iryo tsembatsemba, barimo Kagame na Kayumba. 

Iyo mvuga rero nti nimureke guhakwa ku babiciye, mbambwira abanyarwanda bari mu gihugu nti, iyo ngoma yamennye amaraso y'abanyarwanda, cyane cyane y'abahutu, mugire ubutwari, iyi ngoma yabiciye mwihomaho, n'ejo ntizabacira akari urutega, muyegukeho, muyirwanye, nta mpuhwe na rimwe izabagirira, nkuko yamennye amaraso y'abanyu, ntizatinya kumena n'ayanyu.

Nashakaga kandi kubwira abihoma inyuma ya Kayumba Nyamwasa, bo mw'ishyaka rya RNC, ngo bamwegukeho, bamuzibukire kuva bamenye ko ari mubari kw'isonga ryo kumena amaraso no gukora amahano y'itsembabwoko ry'abahutu. 

Icyakora naravuze nti Kayna yemeye ko we bwite yakoze ayo mahano, bikaba bimubabaje, ariko akemera nk'icyiru kudufasha guhirika iriya ngoma, twabyakira. 

Yaba atabyemeye, bikavuga ko agifite gahunda yo kwimakaza ubwoko bumwe, agishaka gutsemba ubundi.

Munyabagisha unyumva uranyumvise?

Nkiko Nsengimana


Le 1 oct. 2016 à 13:47, "fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com" <fmunyabagisha@hotmail.com> a écrit :

"Mureke guhakwa ku babiciye" (nkiko)

N-kubahwa Nkiko, nyemerera nkubaze tuganire.

1- uguze uti "mureke",  ugira ngo DUkore iki?
Narasomye ngutega amatwi aliko sinasobanukirwa ku ngingo nyinshi, entre autres abatwiciye uvuga ni bande. Urujijo rushobora kuba rushamitse ku mayobera y.amaculi y.intwali n.inzigo. car i rwanda ndetse n.ahandi les fossoyeurs des uns sont des heros des autres. 
Unfashije gusobanukurwa " ababiciye" abo ali bo waba ugize neza 

2- Hali aho usa n.ushimangira ibyavuzwe n.abatabazwa ubushishozi nka wa munya Cote d.Ivoire Degni. N.ubwo  koko icuo gihe mu Rwanda halimo kuba genocide y.abiswe n.abiyita abatutsi, mvuze mvuga abiswe muli rusange, imibare yabaye ikirangirire ivuga ko nta mututsi ukuba i rwanda wali urulimo muli 94 avrl mai. 850k! Arusha nawe wagiye gutangayo isesengura ry.aliya mahano. Nasomye ko wasobanuliye inkongoro mu ngoro y'intsinzi (Nuremberg) ko genocide yateguwe n.abaregwagwa. Ubu uretse kuli Kagame n.abahutu be (abo ahatse na na kadihirambetezi), kwemeza biliya nyuma y.ibyigaragaza byaba bihatse kugira nkana byo gutinya urumuli rw.umunsi. 

3- Uti "mureke..."! 
Mu"!? Iyo byibuze wandika Tu!  Nibyo koko mureke tuve mu magambo, tujye mu mudiho bitsli ibyo gushyenga no gushyayaya- duhaguruke duhangamure urwanda aho Rudahigwa yasize arumanitse, ni ukuvuga mu makimbirane y.injiji. 
Abatwiciye ni bo bicanyi, twe ntituli abicanyi. Baratwiciye bica ku babo, bo na bo nyaho bahuliye. Tubareke rero. Ahubwo dusesengure dushikamye iicyabakukiyemo kikabatera imhumeko y.ubwicanyi.  bimbanye byinshi reka mhinire aha.


Best regards  /  Tout.pour le meilleur / Imhagarike!

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