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[haguruka.com] Fw: *DHR* Rwanda:the changes made to the constitution are peculiar. Here’s why

 

I believe that Prof Filip Reyntjens does not know that even that small party "the Democratic Green Party" was paid  by Kagame to oppose Kagame's changes of the constitution. This small party is not really a party because it has only three members. Kagame pays that  Party to make political noise aiming to show that there is some opposition in Rwanda. The legal action against Kagame's plans to change the constitution was agreed with Kagame. 

On Thursday, 28 January 2016, 20:47, "agnesmurebwayire@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights]" <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr> wrote:


 
Filip Reyntjens - theconversation.com


A two-year process to secure a constitutional amendment allowing Rwandan President Kagame to run for a third term finally ended in mid-December with 98.3% voter approval. The country's 2003 constitution had limited the number of terms a president could sit to two.

The campaign for the change was run by the governing Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) as well as all parties represented in parliament. It was largely supported by the regime-dependent media and opinion makers. The result was near-total unanimity in favour.

The sole registered opposition party, the Democratic Green Party, was the only one to publicly oppose the move, and even petitioned the Supreme Court to have the amendment declared unconstitutional. But it had no legal case and was rightly denied its claim.

In all, 3.7 million Rwandans out of a total voting population of six million signed petitions in a regime-organised "spontaneous" expression of support. The country's population is estimated to be just over 12 million.

There were no debates, no demonstrations - not even peaceful ones. This was to be expected. Since the RPF took power in 1994 every demonstration in the country has been organised by the government.

Both chambers of parliament unanimously approved the amendment. One MP abstained. And during nationwide "consultations", MPs and senators only found ten Rwandans opposing the move.

Strongly worded expressions of discontent by the US and the EU didn't help. Kagame was quick to denounce international interference in Rwandan affairs.
The revised constitution was published in the Official Gazette on 24 December. Kagame, having displayed a noncommittal attitude throughout the campaign, announced on New Year's eve that he would seek a third presidential term.

This article draws attention to some legal peculiarities of the revised constitution.

Unpacking the constitutional change

Article 101 as revised states:

The President of the Republic is elected for a five (5) year term. He or she may be re-elected once.
The initial 2003 constitution was phrased as follows:

The President of the Republic is elected for a term of seven years renewable only once. Under no circumstances shall a person hold the office of President of the Republic for more than two terms.
The duration of presidential terms is thus reduced from seven to five years; the number of terms remains limited to two. The deletion of the emphasis "under no circumstances" has no constitutional significance.

Although the Democratic Green Party invoked this to support its claim before the Supreme Court, the two-term limit is clear and unambiguous, and the emphasis was redundant. So far, so good.

But, Chapter XI on transitional provisions contains an article that makes all the difference. Article 172 proceeds in three steps. Paragraph one states:
The President of the Republic in office at the time this revised Constitution comes into force continues to serve the term of office for which he was elected.

This provision is not extraordinary as it aims at preventing a void in the office of the president. But it would have been more logical to provide for this continuity for all offices of the state in one transitional provision. However, this paragraph sets the foundation for something more important: namely Kagame's stay in office beyond 2017.

Indeed the operative part of paragraph two provides that
[w]ithout prejudice to Article 101 of this Constitution (…) a seven (7) year presidential term of office is established and shall follow the completion of the term of office referred to in the first paragraph of this article.

While the legalistic quality of this provision is poor and could raise doubts as to the beneficiary of this exceptional seven-year term (as phrased it could apply to any candidate), it is clearly meant to apply to Kagame, and to him only, as the non-operative part (see below) indicates. So paragraph two allows Kagame to run for a third seven year term in 2017.

The third paragraph states:
The provisions of Article 101 of this Constitution shall take effect after the seven (7) year term of office referred to in the second paragraph of this article

What this means is that after his third seven-year term in 2024, Kagame can stand for another two five year terms.
This implies that he could theoretically remain in office until 2034. As he was de facto leader since 1994 before formally becoming president in 2000, that would give him a 40-year presidency.

What's peculiar about the changes

Article 172 displays at least three peculiarities. The first is that the provision is tailor-made for one person, namely President Kagame. Constitutions are normally abstract and general. This oddity was highlighted by the EU High Representative Frederica Mogherini:

[T]he adoption of provisions that can apply only to one individual weakens the credibility of the constitutional reform process (…). The amendments to the Rwandan constitution (…) would give rise to this situation.
Second, that the revised text refers specifically to Kagame can also be deduced from another peculiar feature. This is the inclusion of a non-operative provision in the second paragraph of article 172 which contains the following passage:

….considering the petitions submitted by Rwandans that preceded the coming into force of this revised Constitution, which were informed by the particular challenges of Rwanda's tragic history and the choice made to overcome them, the progress so far achieved and the desire to lay a firm foundation for sustainable development.

This can refer only to Kagame's past record. In addition, it is a sentence one would expect to find in the preamble of the constitution, and not in the actual text as it has no normative content.
The third oddity is that the entry into force of article 101 is made dependent on a contingent event, namely that Kagame stands for re-election in 2017 and that he is elected.

While it is safe to assume that he will be elected if he runs, the question arises: what happens if he doesn't? Although he has announced he will, events might prevent him from doing so between now and mid-2017. In that case, does article 101 enter into force in 2017?

These three peculiarities are the consequence of a bizarre constitution-making process that was exclusively focused on Kagame remaining in office beyond 2017. The entire campaign leading to this outcome was extremely personalised, with the incumbent presented as unique and irreplaceable and, more generally, Rwanda highlighted as exceptional. This is not the foundation on which sound constitutional bases can be laid.






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[haguruka.com] TR: [fondationbanyarwanda] TR: UKUNTU UMUNSI W'INTWARI MU RWANDA ARI IKINYOMA CYA FPR INKOTANYI

 

Komera bwana Bangamwabo. 

Uzi ko koko ahali icyica Urwanda ali abaseruka babeshya bati "tuje gutabara cyangwa se kuvugira abanyarwanda nkaho hali uwabibatumye cyangwa se wabibasabye!" Nta munyarwanda ushinzwe undi, buli wese yishakira ikimutunga naho-aba, uretse ko yifashisha abandi ngo agere kubyo ashaka. Sire Kagame yabikinnye neza ashaka kwibonera third term limit atarushye!

Nuko rero ba Kayibanda hali abamukezaga ngo babone uko biberaho; aguye bose bajya gushakira amakiliro muli MRND, nayo kandi iguye bagannye muli RPF. Bimwe twunvise ngo Habyarimana yatanze amasheki bishobora kuba byaratewe n'ikidodo kuli roho ye, nka kumwe Kagame agira atya akifata nk'ukulikiza ibyo umubyeyi Bisinda yamusabaga. Ntacyerekana ko ibi bikorwa kubera kunva ko bashinzwe abanyarwanda.


Nubu abaguye hilya no hino ni "kazi yawo", ubundi hakunzwe kuvugwa ko ntabo. Hazwi gusa abaguye muli jenocide yakorewe abatutsi basa. Abasenyeli, abihayImmana n'abandi bafite ikibatunze ntakibareba, buli wese yiyambalira imishanana agasingiza iterambere limugabulira, umunsi kandi lizaba litakigabura bazalitera umugongo. 


Uti diaspora. Huu, diaspora se yo si abanyarwanda bayigize? Ntabwo se abenshi ali ibitambambuga ababyeyi bahetse babihungisha urwagwiliye abo ku Rwesero, Curazo, Kibeho, Nyakinama, n'ahandi, bakabigeza iyo za Senegali, Buraya, Amerika na Aziya. None barasoretse baliruka bagaruka Ikigali muli ngwino-urebe cyangwa se bafata amatike yo kwitaba Rwanda-day. Bahagera bakagabulirwa, bagasasirwa bakilyamira nta gusaba kujya gushyira amashyurwe ku bituro by'abavandimwe ababyeyi batashoboye kurokora cyangwa se gusaba ko imirambo ikili mu misarane yashyingurwa: none ikosa ni ilyande? Ntawe kuko ntawe ushinzwe undi, keretse gusa mu madiskuru. 

Ngibyo ngayo; ibindi ni amanyanga kandi menshi! 




De : fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr> de la part de Martin Bangamwabo mbangamwabo@yahoo.fr [fondationbanyarwanda] <fondationbanyarwanda@yahoogroupes.fr>
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Ariko se bwana KOTA, mwacishije make.
Aho mutuye haba muri AMerika cyangwa mu burayi cyangwa se ahandi muri Afurika, ko Kagamé atahafite power, mwagerageje kwerekana ko muriho.
Muti mu Rwanda, ubutegetsi, iyo buvuze abanyarwanda buba bwivugira abatutsi gusa naho abahutu bakabura ubavugira.
 
Partons sur le fait que c'est vrai. Kagame atarafata ingoma, abo bahutu bavugiwe na nde?
Imiryango ya Kayibanda na bangenzi be yigenze nibura ishobora gushyingura ababo bishwe?
Bitaniye he se n'ab'ubu batikiriye mu Rwanda no muri Zaîre no mu bindi bihugu bakaba badashobora kubaririra mu Rwanda?
 
Gusa akabazo kamwe: Ko kugeza ubu nta munsi nzi diaspora yashyizeho wo kwibuka abantu bose biciwe mu Rwanda no muri Zaïre n'ahandi? Na byo se ni KAGAME ubabuza?
Niba ariwe, akabuza abantu mu bihugu byose by'isi akabishobora, dans ce cas muyamanike, nti mwamushobora.




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Objet : [fondationbanyarwanda] TR: UKUNTU UMUNSI W'INTWARI MU RWANDA ARI IKINYOMA CYA FPR INKOTANYI

 
Abasangizi bati "Amateka y'u Rwanda atabogamye agaragariza buri wese ushaka kuyamenya uko ari, ko Umwami Mutara III Rudahigwa yari afite iye definition y'abanyarwanda yihariye imeze nk'iyo perezida Kagame afite. Bombi iyo bavuga abanyarwanda ibi, abanyarwanda biriya, baba bavuga abatutsi gusa, abahutu ntibaba barimo. Ngiyo definition yabo y'abanyarwanda."
Nyamara aba batware bombi ni abahanga. Bavumbuye ko gukoresha "abanyarwanda" bituma baha byose abo bashaka, aliko ntihagire uwashobora kubagiliza bimwe byo kwa Habyarimana ngo hali ubwoko ubu n'ubu baheje aha n'aha. Na "ndi umunyarwanda" nicyo igamije, ko ababo bihalira aheza hose aliko ntihagire utabalinyuma watera hejuru, kuko bamubaza bati ese twamenya dute ibyo uvuga, kandi bo babizi bakoresha ayo moko mu cyayenge nkuko inkoko isusuruka! 
Aho inyungu itali, baratobora bakavuga abatutsi, abahutu n'abatwa (abasigajwe inyuma n'amateka). 
Ni nuko genocide yabaye iyakorewe abatutsi, abahutu  n'abatwa bicanywe nabo bakaba ibimonyo bitavugwa. Nguko uko abacikacumu babaye abatutsi gusa, bakitabwaho bonyine naho abo abahutu bakagwa ku gasi.
Ku bujyanye n'ibyo kuvuga intwali nyazo za Rwanda (abo ba Prosper Bwanakweli, etc.), byashoboka bite ahantu hakoreshwa ikinyoma gisa gisa? Ahubwo muze twigire inyuma ya bamwe bivuga ko bahagalitse genocide, uretse ko bidutangaza ukuntu ba Clinton, Blair, Warren, etc. batarababonera Nobel Price ngo batujugunyireho utuvungunyukira!  





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-The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
-I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.
-The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
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[haguruka.com] Re: [fondationbanyarwanda] TR: UKUNTU UMUNSI W'INTWARI MU RWANDA ARI IKINYOMA CYA FPR INKOTANYI

 

 
Ariko se bwana KOTA, mwacishije make.
Aho mutuye haba muri AMerika cyangwa mu burayi cyangwa se ahandi muri Afurika, ko Kagamé atahafite power, mwagerageje kwerekana ko muriho.
Muti mu Rwanda, ubutegetsi, iyo buvuze abanyarwanda buba bwivugira abatutsi gusa naho abahutu bakabura ubavugira.
 
Partons sur le fait que c'est vrai. Kagame atarafata ingoma, abo bahutu bavugiwe na nde?
Imiryango ya Kayibanda na bangenzi be yigenze nibura ishobora gushyingura ababo bishwe?
Bitaniye he se n'ab'ubu batikiriye mu Rwanda no muri Zaîre no mu bindi bihugu bakaba badashobora kubaririra mu Rwanda?
 
Gusa akabazo kamwe: Ko kugeza ubu nta munsi nzi diaspora yashyizeho wo kwibuka abantu bose biciwe mu Rwanda no muri Zaïre n'ahandi? Na byo se ni KAGAME ubabuza?
Niba ariwe, akabuza abantu mu bihugu byose by'isi akabishobora, dans ce cas muyamanike, nti mwamushobora.




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Objet : [fondationbanyarwanda] TR: UKUNTU UMUNSI W'INTWARI MU RWANDA ARI IKINYOMA CYA FPR INKOTANYI

 
Abasangizi bati "Amateka y'u Rwanda atabogamye agaragariza buri wese ushaka kuyamenya uko ari, ko Umwami Mutara III Rudahigwa yari afite iye definition y'abanyarwanda yihariye imeze nk'iyo perezida Kagame afite. Bombi iyo bavuga abanyarwanda ibi, abanyarwanda biriya, baba bavuga abatutsi gusa, abahutu ntibaba barimo. Ngiyo definition yabo y'abanyarwanda."
Nyamara aba batware bombi ni abahanga. Bavumbuye ko gukoresha "abanyarwanda" bituma baha byose abo bashaka, aliko ntihagire uwashobora kubagiliza bimwe byo kwa Habyarimana ngo hali ubwoko ubu n'ubu baheje aha n'aha. Na "ndi umunyarwanda" nicyo igamije, ko ababo bihalira aheza hose aliko ntihagire utabalinyuma watera hejuru, kuko bamubaza bati ese twamenya dute ibyo uvuga, kandi bo babizi bakoresha ayo moko mu cyayenge nkuko inkoko isusuruka! 
Aho inyungu itali, baratobora bakavuga abatutsi, abahutu n'abatwa (abasigajwe inyuma n'amateka). 
Ni nuko genocide yabaye iyakorewe abatutsi, abahutu  n'abatwa bicanywe nabo bakaba ibimonyo bitavugwa. Nguko uko abacikacumu babaye abatutsi gusa, bakitabwaho bonyine naho abo abahutu bakagwa ku gasi.
Ku bujyanye n'ibyo kuvuga intwali nyazo za Rwanda (abo ba Prosper Bwanakweli, etc.), byashoboka bite ahantu hakoreshwa ikinyoma gisa gisa? Ahubwo muze twigire inyuma ya bamwe bivuga ko bahagalitse genocide, uretse ko bidutangaza ukuntu ba Clinton, Blair, Warren, etc. batarababonera Nobel Price ngo batujugunyireho utuvungunyukira!  





De : Anastase Gasana <gasana31@gmail.com>
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Posted by: Martin Bangamwabo <mbangamwabo@yahoo.fr>
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-Ce dont jai le plus peur, cest des gens qui croient que, du jour  au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre.
-The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
-I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.
-The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
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[haguruka.com] TR: UKUNTU UMUNSI W'INTWARI MU RWANDA ARI IKINYOMA CYA FPR INKOTANYI

 

Abasangizi bati "Amateka y'u Rwanda atabogamye agaragariza buri wese ushaka kuyamenya uko ari, ko Umwami Mutara III Rudahigwa yari afite iye definition y'abanyarwanda yihariye imeze nk'iyo perezida Kagame afite. Bombi iyo bavuga abanyarwanda ibi, abanyarwanda biriya, baba bavuga abatutsi gusa, abahutu ntibaba barimo. Ngiyo definition yabo y'abanyarwanda."

Nyamara aba batware bombi ni abahanga. Bavumbuye ko gukoresha "abanyarwanda" bituma baha byose abo bashaka, aliko ntihagire uwashobora kubagiliza bimwe byo kwa Habyarimana ngo hali ubwoko ubu n'ubu baheje aha n'aha. Na "ndi umunyarwanda" nicyo igamije, ko ababo bihalira aheza hose aliko ntihagire utabalinyuma watera hejuru, kuko bamubaza bati ese twamenya dute ibyo uvuga, kandi bo babizi bakoresha ayo moko mu cyayenge nkuko inkoko isusuruka! 

Aho inyungu itali, baratobora bakavuga abatutsi, abahutu n'abatwa (abasigajwe inyuma n'amateka). 

Ni nuko genocide yabaye iyakorewe abatutsi, abahutu  n'abatwa bicanywe nabo bakaba ibimonyo bitavugwa. Nguko uko abacikacumu babaye abatutsi gusa, bakitabwaho bonyine naho abo abahutu bakagwa ku gasi.

Ku bujyanye n'ibyo kuvuga intwali nyazo za Rwanda (abo ba Prosper Bwanakweli, etc.), byashoboka bite ahantu hakoreshwa ikinyoma gisa gisa? Ahubwo muze twigire inyuma ya bamwe bivuga ko bahagalitse genocide, uretse ko bidutangaza ukuntu ba Clinton, Blair, Warren, etc. batarababonera Nobel Price ngo batujugunyireho utuvungunyukira!  






De : Anastase Gasana <gasana31@gmail.com>
Envoyé : vendredi 29 janvier 2016 15:54
À : joseph.sebarenzi@worldlearning.org; UDAHEMUKA Eric; em.hame@laposte.net; eugeneu2003@yahoo.fr; Elenga Enkoy; UWIMANA Espÿffffffffffe9rance; Muziraguhunga Elasto; Patriote Rwandais; f; ITAHUKA IJWI RYIHURIRO NYARWANDA; Theogene Rudasingwa; Olivier Rukundo; tubehotwese; Twizeyimana Vincent; Innocent TWAGIRAMUNGU; theafricawatch@gmail.com; tsalmyd@yahoo.fr; inkuruzagasabo@yahoo.fr; diditedy@yahoo.fr; sisievariste@yahoo.fr; UMUSOTO; freddy usabuwera; ally.yusuf.mugenzi@bbc.co.uk; Isaac MUKESHIMANA; Ikaze Iwacu; ikinyamakuru Umurabyo Umurabyo; paulrusesabagina@yahoo.fr; Niyonshuti Pacifique; joseph hakizimana; Providence R.; FORUM Amakuru; lafiancee armee; Rwanda-All@yahoogroups.com; abdallah.akishuli@yahoo.com; Biramahire salvator; samcyprien@hotmail.com; f; john dayi; f; Batungwanayo Felicien; GREAT-LAKES; Kanyemera Gaspard; Gerald Gahima; kdonatien@hotmail.com; John Ndahiriwe; JACQUES KANYAMIBWA; kota venant; Zephanie SEMAHORO; Japhet Mwizerwa; Veritasinfo Ngoga; BN B; mngolole@yahoo.com; Justin Minani; jmhigiro@hotmail.com; jmarie Micombero; abdoulmizero@gmail.com; Shema Bruno; ayurwandabernard@yahoo.com; cadinn2@yaho.fr; kwihangana cadeau innocent; Modeste Ngezenubwo; nganji alype; mutama75@gmail.com; hagenimanajean@yahoo.fr; aliceakana@yahoo.fr; nsabimana Alphonse; Nsabimana Joseph; nayihikik@aol.com; mariojansen11@yahoo.fr; sylvestret@gmail.com; uwayopatrick@yahoo.fr; kaludamas@voila.fr; Richard Kayumba; alex.sema@yahoo.fr; alexandre_nsh@hotmail.com; Bakunzibake Alexis; Duharanire Uburenganzira; BARAKA IBRAHIM; mahoro iwacu; Lombe Makassi; felin.gakwaya@bbc.co.uk; Bonaventure Uwanyirigira; Nkusi Uwimana Agnes; www.umuryango .com; jambosana karibu; ruthatheogene@yahoo.fr; goodluck4uber@gmail.com; sjm12@yahoo.fr; gidius21@hotmail.fr; jngarambe2010@yahoo.fr; Nkiko Nsengimana; sixchris@netti.fi; MUGABO Edison; Gaston Nkurunziza; ndagijimanagustave@yahoo.com; sembagares@yahoo.com; Dukuze Vincent; joyeusebeni@yahoo.fr; nigena.claude@yahoo.fr; ndekezi82000@yahoo.fr; evmpamo@yahoo.com; dutegerezeantoine@yahoo.fr; ituyisenge@hotmail.com; Andre Uwizeyimana
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Posted by: kota venant <kotakori@hotmail.com>
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-Ce dont jai le plus peur, cest des gens qui croient que, du jour  au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre.
-The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
-I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.
-The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
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-“The root cause of the Rwandan tragedy of 1994 is the long and past historical ethnic dominance of one minority ethnic group to the other majority ethnic group. Ignoring this reality is giving a black cheque for the Rwandan people’s future and deepening resentment, hostility and hatred between the two groups.”

-« Ce dont j’ai le plus peur, c’est des gens qui croient que, du jour au lendemain, on peut prendre une société, lui tordre le cou et en faire une autre ».

-“The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.”

-“I have loved justice and hated iniquity: therefore I die in exile.

-“The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.”

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