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Thursday, 30 April 2015

[amakurunamateka.com] Re: *DHR* matiere a reflexion

 

Basomyi banditsi,
Nagirango niba munkundiye mbashishikarize gusoma no gutekereza ku bibazo umwenegihugu nkatwe mugenzi wacu Rwembe Charlie atubajije muri iyi nyandiko ye yuzuye ubushishozi. Ngiye gutanga umuganda wanjye mu gusubiza ibibazo bye kuko bifite ireme n'ishingiro, ubwo namwe buri wese ashyireho ake kugirango twese turusheho gusobanukirwa.
1.Ibyo mugenzi wacu Semakweli yamushubije nasanze bisa na narratives za FPR ku mateka y'u Rwanda. Byatumye nsubira mu bitabo byanditswe n'abashakashatsi bazwiho kutabogama no kutagoreka amateka y'u Rwanda nka University of Wisconsin Professor Jan Vansina mu gitabo cy'ubushakashatsi ku Rwanda yasohoye ku ngoma ya Cyami ntutsi mu 1956, donc adafite influence y'ibya repubulika; ndeba n'gitabo cyavuye mu bushakashatsi bwa Catherine Newbury ari prof. wa History muri University of North Carolina Chapel Hills, n'inyandiko zo mu gihe cyo ku ngoma ya Cyami zakoranyirijwe mu gitabo kitwa Rwanda Politique 1958-1960 (les Dossiers du Centre de Recherche et d'Information Socio-politiques Bruxelles 1961).
2. u Rwanda ruheruka kugira amahoro hagati y'abahutu abatutsi abatwa barutuye ntawica undi babanye neza mbere ya 1600 ku gihe cy'abami b'abahutu. Ikibazo hutu/tutsi cyatangiye mu mayak ya za 1600 ubwo abami b'abatutsi baciye nyuma abami b'abahutu bakoreshe ruse, uburyarya, ubuhendanyi n'ubuhemu babagabaho ibitero nta mpamvu barabica babashahura ibyo bambariyeho babyambika ingoma y'ubwami bwabo Kalinga, abaturage babo babagira ingaruzwamuheto. Dore uko abatutsi 12 b'abajyanama b'umwami Rudahigwa babyanditse mw'ibaruwa yabo yo ku ya 18/5/1958 basubiza Kayibanda na bagenzi be baharaniraga isangira ry'ubutegetsi hagati y'abatutsi n'abahtu: "L'histoire dit que Ruganzu a tue beacoup de Bahinza(roitelets). Lui et les autres de nos rois ont tue des Bahinza et ont ainsi conquis les pays des Bahutu dont ces Bahinza etaient rois. On en trouve le details dans l'Inganji Kalinga. Puisque donc nos rois qui ont conquis les pays des Bahutu en tuant leurs roitelets et ont ainsi asservi les Bahutu, comment maintenant ceux-ci peuvent-ils pretendre etre nos freres?". Tuer tuer tuer. Kwica kwica kwica. Hari abatutsi benshi batekereza ubu kimwe na bariya bajyanama b'umwami Rudahigwa; kuko FPR ni ko itekereza; ngirango muzi ko FPR ikora ibishoboka byose kugirango mu Rwanda rwayo he kubaho mariages mixtes Hutu/Tutsi cyangwa Tutsi/Hutu; inyangamugayo pasteur Antoine Rutayisire(tutsi) yarabisobanuye bihagije.
3.  Muri ubwo bwicanyi, Abami b'abahutu n'abaturage babo ntibabashije kwirwanaho kuko bwari ubwambere babonye ibintu nk'ibyo kandi nta culture guerriere bari barigeze, bakaba bari abantu b'ababanyamahoro bibereye aho ari nayo mpamvu abatutsi baje babasanga mu Rwanda ntibabarwanye ahubwo bakabakira bakabana nabo neza mbere y'imyaka ya 1600 nkuko nabisobanuye haruguru. Abatutsi bo baje bafite une culture guerriere na n'ubu ikiriho muri peuples apparentes ku batutsi zo muri East and corn of Africa, culture yo kujya kunyaga inka hakoreshejwe ibitero by'imirwano(cattle raid culture).Uyu muco banawukoresha mu gusarura aho batahinze. Urugero nk'abaDINKA bo muri South Sudan baravuga ngo "twe duhingisha icumu" kuko bahengera imyaka yeze bakagaba ibitero ku muhinzi bakamutera icumu bagasarura ibyo we yahinze. Ibi byarabaye murabizi mu myaka itatu ine ishize muri Somalia aho " the Bantu of Somalia/somalis bantu" byabaye ngombwa ko bahungira muri Tanzania kubera guhora bicwa kuriya.
4. Hagati aho mu Rwanda hari abahutu bagiye bafata iyambere mu kurwanya oppression y' ingoma ya Cyami ntutsi ariko kubera ko bari bahejwe mu ngabo z'umwami(z'igihugu) zabaga zigizwe n'abatutsi gusa, imyivumbagatanyo yabo yagiye iburizwamo n'ingabo monoethnique z'Umwami wababeshyaga ngo iyo yabaye umwami yasigaraga nta bwoko agira kandi atari byo. Muri abo bahutu bayoboye imyivumbagatanyo y'abahutu yo kwigobotora oppressive regime tutsi abazwi ni MBANZABUGABO na NKIZAMACUMU mu kinyejana cya 1800 bishwe, na NYIRASHYIRAMBERE NYIRAFUGI umuhutukazi w'intwari wayoboye imyivumbagatanyo ya nyuma mu 1897. Yaje guhungira i Burundi nuko umwami Ntare w'u Burundi(tutsi) aramutanga amusubiza mugenzi we w'u Rwanda aramwica. Kuva ubwo uwakurikiyeho ni Gregoire Kayibanda mu 1957, ibye murabizi.
5. Mugenzi wacu Semakweli yavuze ko umwe mu bagaba b'ingabo z'umwami Bisangwa yari umuhutu. Ntabwo ari byo. Yari umutwa. Ingabo z'umwami(z'igihugu) zabaga zigizwe n'abatutsi gusa kandi nabwo batari abatutsi abo ari bo bose: kugirango ujye mu ngabo wagombaga kuba uri umututsi, uri umwana w'umwiru, w'umutware w'i Bwami, w'umutware wo mu ntara, w'umututsi wundi usanzwe mu ngabo, cyangwa ukomoka mu miryango y'abatutsi ikomeye izwi, mbese ufite izina ufite reference bakubaza bati uri mwene nde ukabasha kuvuga uwo ari we. Abahutu bari bahejwe mu ngabo, bakaba barakoreshwaga gusa nka man power yo muri logistics bikorera ibiboho by'imyambi n'amacumu n'ibiribwa n'ibinyobwa by'abatutsi bari mu ngabo. Aha ni ho havuye umugani wa kinyarwanda uvuga ngo: "Utwaye icumu rya shebuja, yitwaza n'ake gakeregeshwa". Mu mwaka wa 1735 ni bwo umwami Mazimpaka yakomoreye abatwa bonyine abashyira mu ngabo z'ingangurarugo(royal guard). Ni uko nyuma mu gihe cy'umwaduko w'abazungu, Ingangurarugo zari ziyobowe n'umutwa witwaga Bisangwa, uwo Semakweli yibeshye akavuga ko yari umuhutu.
6.Guverinoma y'Umwami yari igizwe n'abatutsi gusa guhera kuri we ubwe, umugabekazi ari we nyina, abajyanama be, abiru, abatware b'ingabo, abatware b'imisozi n'ibisonga by'abo bose. Nta muhutu wakandagizagamo ikirenge. Inama ya Guverinoma y'umwami yaberaga mu gutaramana n'umwami nimugoroba iwe banywa inzoga: kujya inama kungurana ibitekerezo kuganira ku bibazo by'igihugu, byajyanaga no kunywa inzoga(mu kinyarwanda nta nzoga itagira ijambo nta n'ijambo ritagira inzoga). Ariko n'ubwo ikinyoma cy'ingoma ya Cyami ntutsi cyari "imbaga y'inyabutatu nyarwanda", ntayigeze ibaho mu by'ukuri kuko abatutsi banenaga abahutu n'abatwa (ntibasangiraga nabo ibinyobwa cyangwa se ibiryo); abahutu nabo banenaga abatwa. Iyo mbaga y'inyabutatu nyarwanda rero, ntayaba i Bwami mu nama ya guverinoma yateraniraga i Bwami nyine,  iruhande rw'ikibindi cy'inturire n'ibicuma by'inkangaza.
7. Mugenzi wacu Rwembe ati: "ndabaza ndasobanuza:niba abatutsi bafite culture guerriere, abahutu bo bafite culture de la soummission et de la resignation ituma bamara imyaka 800 bategekwa n'abandi bakemera guhakwa nabo".Nasobanuye culture guerriere y'abatutsi aho ituruka mu muco w'aborozi wo kunyaga inka hakoreshwejwe ibitero by'imirwano(cattle raid culture). Abahutu(abahinzi) bo uwo muco wo gutera abantu ukabica ukabanyaga ibyabo ukabitwara ukabigira ibyawe ntawo bagira. Bo bagira culture de la paix, de la tolerance, de l'hospitalite, du bon voisinage et du compromis ari nayo mpamvu abatutsi igihe bazaga bakabasanga mu Rwanda abahutu batabarwanije ahubwo babakiriye bakabafasha gutura no guturana nabo.  Ibi n'abatutsi ubwabo barabizi, ku buryo iyo uganiriye nabo mugashyikirana bakubwira bati  "ikosa rikomeye abatutsi twakoze ni ukuba twarigishije abahutu kwica kuko ntabyo bari bazi". Uzarebe kuva mu 1994 bagaruye ibyabo byo ku ngoma ya Cyami byinshi mu migenzereze no mu myambarire n'ibindi, ariko FPR yabo yababujije kugarura iby'ibyivugo n'amahamba n'amazina y'inka kuko birimo kwica kwica kwica gusa gusa bakabona ko byabatamaza bigashyira ku karubanda umuco wabo mubi wo KWICA, kandi n'ubundi abaDMI n'abakada ba FPR baba ari byo barimo hirya no hino mu gihugu bica abahutu, cyane cyane muri iki gihe cy'icyumano bo bita : "igihe cyo kwiyunguza ibipinga" (ibipinga=abahutu).
8. Abahutu bameze nk'andi moko yo mu karere kacu bita BANTU, urugero nk'abahutu bo muri Congo DRC n'andi moko yaho azirana no kwica umuntu no kuvusha umuntu amaraso; muzabaze abantu babaye muri Zaire-Congo DRC bazabibabwira ukuntu umukongomani yaza akakwiba ariko ntakwice. Ibi bituma batabasha kwigobotora ingoma yica nk'iriya iri mu Rwanda.Ikindi kibi ni umuco nyarwanda wubakiye ku buhendanyi buzamo n'ubugwari bwinshi ngo nimugende mutangire/mugerageze nzaba nza maze kureba iyo bigana! Iyo bigana aho se hazaboneka hate wowe utabigizemo uruhare! Imyivumbagatanyo yahiritse perezida wa Tuniziya yaturutse ku musore w'imyaka 25 wari ufite iseta acururizaho utuntu mu mugi abapolisi baraza ibye byose babitera imigeri baramenagura n'uko kubera agahinda n'umubabaro bitewe n'urugomo akorewe afata essence ahagaraga hahandi yacururiza utuntu twe aritwika arakongoka arashira. Abaturage bumvise akarengane ke barahaguruka bakuraho ubutetsi bubi burenganya abantu. Mu Rwanda hakunze kuba nk'iby'uriya musore: nasomye mu binyamakuru byo mu Rwanda umuturage w'i Gitarama wahinze udushyimbo two kumurengera ahantu mu rutoki rwe, umuyobozi w'ibanze aza kumubwira ngo nabirandure aranga nuko ajya kuza abanyururu kuri Komini baraza barabirandura umuturage yegurwa n'agahinda ariyahura arapfa. Mu Rwanda ho ibi babifata nka faits divers, nk'ibintu bisanzwe. Nabyo ni imbogamizi ikomeye mu kwigobotora ingoma mpotozi nk'iriya ya Kagame na FPR ye.
N.B.IBITABO NAVUZE UBISHAKA WESE YASOMA:
-Jan Vansina: Antecedents to Modern Rwanda: The Nyiginya Kindom. Original yacyo ni igifaransa.
-Catharine Newbury: The Cohesion of Oppression: Clientship and ethnicity in Rwanda, 1860-1960;
-C.R.I.S.P: Rwanda Politique 1958-1960, Bruxelles 1961.
(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi w'ishyaka PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
  

2015-04-29 10:23 GMT-04:00 Rwembe Charlie rwembe6030@yahoo.fr [Democracy_Human_Rights] <Democracy_Human_Rights@yahoogroupes.fr>:
 

p. 134-135: l'histoire montre que le hamite devenu tutsi a tjrs agresse  ses compatriotes. Il les a tues et asservis depuis des siecles jusqu'au depart du roi en juin 1960...et a dater du 1er octbre 1990...leur descendant P. Kagame a sacrifie les tutsi en 1994.  Egoiste et privilegiant l'agression, le dirigeant tutsi ne veut pas dialoguer et il refuse le partage. le Hutu reste etonne et se soumet avec resignation puisqu'il n'a pas de culture guerriere...Ngangali Christophe, dans Rwanda, ethnies, clans et problemes socio-politiques, ed. Scribe.
Ndabaza,ndasobanuza:
Haba se hariho indi culture twakwita  de soumission et de resignation? Nihagire rwose usobanura ukuntu imyaka isaga 800 ishize abantu bemera gutegekwa nabandi, bakemera guhakwa nabo...ese ra, iyo ubana numuntu ntiwiga umuco we, ndetse ukaba wanazimiza ukamurusha? Niba koko umututsi yaraje akigarurira umuhutu yasanze, akamutegeka, akamuhaka, akamugira umuja, akamugenera kubaho cg gupfa, bishoboka gute ko uwo muhutu yabyemeye neza neza, ibyo nakwita iyo domination morale imaze imyaka isaga 800 ni nde wayidusobanurira? Na parenthese yimyaka 33 abahutu biganzuye Gihake na Cyami ntacyo yabigishije...bityo nkomeje kwibaza gute bishoboka ko abantu bemera gutegekwa buhumyi no kugirwa ingaruzwamuheto imyaka igashira indi igataha...ninde wansobanurira? Abaminuje muri sociologie yenda badusobanurira iyo phenomene social... ese hari ahandi kwisi ibi byabayeho cg biriho? Ingero?...


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[amakurunamateka.com] New York, USA: Breaking Silence & Uncovering the 1972 Burundi Genocide Against Hutu & Other Committed Atrocities

 

International Conference – Breaking Silence & Uncovering the 1972 Burundi Genocide Against Hutu & Other Committed Atrocities (Saturday, May 2nd, 1 United Nations Plaza)
 
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[amakurunamateka.com] Did the Brutal Death of Mussolini Contribute to Hitler’s Suicide?

 

Did the Brutal Death of Mussolini Contribute to Hitler's Suicide?
Did the Brutal Death of Mussolini Contribute to Hitler's Suicide?
 
 
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Wednesday, 29 April 2015

[amakurunamateka.com] Scénarios pour le Burundi par le Professeur Filip Reyntjens | Bujumbura News

 



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FW: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Bavandimwe mwese turabashima kubera ibyiyunviro byiza kandi binyuranye mutanga. Ibikorerwa mu Rwanda rwacu rero turabizi twese, ntiturushima aliko n'abarundi nabo ntibagomba kurwitwaza. Ni ibyo gutera imbera kwa democrasi mu Burundui turabibwirwa, niba tutabeshywa tuzi mo duke, nti twabihakanye. Ushaka yongere asome neza posting yacu.
 
Dushaka iki rero? 
Dushaka ubutegetsi busimburana mu muco, uhejeje ikivi (mandats ze)agahigamira abandi nabo bakagerageza, utaragize amahirwe ngo agabulirwe neza nucyuye igihe kimwe n'ibyo yishe cyangwa se atashoboye (kuko ntawukora adakosa) bikabona undi muhinzi mushya wabikosora. Abatemera ibyo batubabalire, ubwo ntabwo tuli kumwe.
 
Pierre Nkurunziza amaze imyaka 10 ategeka kandi bikulikije amasezerano Mandela yabakoreye. Ni mandats ebyili, singombwa rwose guceza ibyontazi ngo ihinduke imwe. Kuba ali umukuru w'igihugu, akavuga ko ashaka kongera kwitoza muli Afrika tuzi uko abaprezida bafatwa nk'ibimana ubwo bisobanura ko igipolisi, igisilikari, abatasi, inkiko zose, administration (ubutegetsi) kuva kuli nyumba-kumi kugeza kuli prezida wa Sena bose bagomba kumushyigikira, nubwo baba batamushaka. Ubwo amahirwe yuko undi yakwitoza akamusimbura akaba ali ntayo. Abantu bose ibyo barabimenye nicyo gituma iyo babonye umuprezida yiraza inyanza nka bimwe bya bwana Kabila, cyangwa Giti-mujisho, baba bataruye ko ashaka kuzaguma ku ngoma ntakundi. Abashoboye rero babifatira aho  (nibyo muliho mubona mu Burundi), naho gutegereza amatora n'inkiko inka iba yaraliwe kera. Ese mwibagiwe ya cours constitutionnel uko yitwaye mu bya Gbagbo na Ouatara muli Cote d'voire? 
Ngicyo igituma twagaye Bwana Nkurunziza kuko yateye ishoti libi urugero rwa democrasi twashimiraga Uburundi,  yitsinda mu izamu lye, ntabwo tumuziza ubuhutu cyangwa se ubututsi. Na Dr A. Gasana yabihamije muli posting "Dieudonne, Ntabwo ari ukubogama ahubwo twe twashakaga kwerekana THE BIG PICTURE kugirango abantu bibaze, basobanukirwe n'ikihishe inyuma ya biriya byose. Kuri jye, Nkurunziza aurait pu dejouer  kiriya kihishe inyuma(Kagame na Museveni) ashyiraho we n'ishyaka rye CNDD-FDD undi mu candidat bose bahurijeho utari we, maze ahubwo akaba ari we yamamamaza."
Ni nabyo kandi tuzagaya abo mu Rwanda birwa balya imitima abishwe n'amavunja, abo amazu yenda kugwira, abatagira za bourses, etc. babategeka guseruka ngo bahamye ko nibadakomezanya n'ujigitiye ingoma ubu baziyahura! 
 
Gutobera uburundi binyuze mu moko n'amafranga ntawubihakana, aliko abarundi bagomba kubifatira ingamba, barakuze. Ni nacyo twagayeho Urwanda rwa Habyarimana na opposition ye muli 1990-1994 batashoboye guhangana na za troubles zasaga nk'izi tubona maze bakazinesha. (1ere ministre yali uwo muli opposition yewe bwana Ntaganzwa we, ubwo ayihagaraliye akaba na alliee wa RPF (Guichaoua 2004)). Rwose mubimenye nta gihugu independant gishinzwe ikindi, biracuruzanya gusa (kandi umucuruzi muzi ko adashinzwe inyungu z'uwo acuruzaho), ni nacyo gituma kwizera Communaute internationale tudashyizeho strategie zacu ali ukwaya. Ibyabaye mu Rwanda ni isomo lya buli gihe: bwana Nkurunziza yirukanye ba bahutu ba Butare na Bugesera bali bamuhungiyeho icumu lya RPF batekereza ko ali bubafashe nkuko nabo bafashije imhunzi z'abarundi za 1972 na Ntega-Marangara kubwa Buyoya. Bwana Nkurunziza yakulikije inyungu z'Uburundi, arabashushubikanya ati ni muhoshi musubire iwanyu babagenere, singiye kwiteranya na RPF na Bwana Kagame. Birunvikana (les pays n'ont pas d'amis mais des interets) na bwana Kagame na RPF nabo bararwana kuli survival yabo. 
None niba Urwanda rwisuganya ngo rutobere igihugu bwana Nkurunziza ayoboye yakagombye kuba yaragihaye inzego zizabasha guhangana n'ibyo biza, naho yaba atagitegeka cyangwa se yaragize ibindi bizazane. Ntabwo rero ibi byo kwotsa Uburundi igitutu byakagombye gutuma agira kuliya, keretse nibura iyoba yarashyizeho "Emergency state" noneho kwitoza mu matora bikaba bisubitswe sine die. 
 

Naho biliya by'uko Rwanda yagutse, ikaba yakira imhunzi-ndundi, izo muli M23, abanyarwanda  bagaruwe birukanwe  nta kibazo nko muli za Congo, za UE, za USA,  etc., uretse nuko ali agenda politique, ni na strategie ya miracle economique: indege zizana ibilyo ziliha ikibuga, ba experts baba benshi bagakodesha ya magorofa yacu Ikigali, nkuko n'abasilikari bavoma muli Loni bazana i Rwanda nuko tukagana Singapour!

 
 Ngayo nguko; nimwoye rwose kuvangitiranya ibintu, maze mudome urutoki aho ikosa liri nta marangamutima. 
  



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 Utyo Samuel, utyo utyo;
Ibi narabivuze muri posting yanjye yo ku ya 17/04/2015 hano kuri DHR aho nagize nti:
"Basomyi banditsi,
Aha ni ho mugomba kubonera ko ubutegetsi burangajwe imbere n'abahutu(hutu-led Govt) nk'ubwa Nkurunziza na CNDD-FDD i Burundi butandukanye kure n'ubutetegetsi burangajwe imbere n'abatutsi(tutsi-led Govt) nk'ubwa Kagame na FPR mu Rwanda. Ubw'abahutu burareka n'abatutsi bakavuga, societe civile igakora, umututsi ancien president Buyoya agahamagaza conference de prese agatangariza abanyamakuru ko adashyigikiye ko perezida w'umuhutu uriho yongera kwiyamamaza; mbese i Burundi hari un minimum de democratie ikora. Mu Rwanda ahari ubutetegetsi bw'abatutsi ntawe ukopfora, ushatse kuzamura agatoki baragaca,ushatse kuzamura ijwi bakamukata ijosi, emwe nushatse kuzana internal debate muri FPR nyirizina bakamufunga nka Colonel Byabagamba na General Rusagara. Ubu se ancien President Bizimungu(Hutu) abigenze nka mugenzi we ancien president Buyoya maze akoreshe conference de presse hariya i Kigali atange igitekerezo cye na we cy'uko itegeko nshinga ry'u Rwanda ritagomba guhinduka ngo perezida uriho yongere yiyamamaze! Ntashobora kuko yahita yicirwa aho. We na Minisitiri Ntakirutinka Karoli bafunzwe imyaka 10 muri gereza ya Kigali ubu bakaba bafungiye mu ngo zabo bazira gusa ko mu 2003 bashinze ishyaka Parti Democratique pour le Renouveau(PDR-UBUYANJA) ritavuga rumwe na FPR ya Kagame iri ku butegetsi mu Rwanda. Abakunda comparative studies/etudes comparees murasangwe."
Perezida Nkurunziza n'ubutegetsi bwe bahaye abarundi ukwishyira bakizana mu gutanga ibitekerezo byabo mu mashyaka ya politiki yigenga, mu mashyirahamwe yigenga, no mw'itangazamakuru ryigenga, byose bidakorera mu kwaha kwishyaka rya Nkurunziza riri ku butegetsi. None Kagame na DMI ye, bakoreshe amafaranga n'amoko yabo, bacengeye UPRONA(parti tutsi) n'amashyirahamwe ayibogamiyeho, bacengeye CNDD-FDD baha amafaranga abo ba Radjabu n'abandi kugirango iby'i Burundi byose bishingiye kw'isangira ry'ubutegetsi hagati ya hutu na tutsi babisambure amahanga areke kujya ahora aza mu Rwanda kubategeka gukora iby'isangira ry'ubutegetsi bisa nk'iby'i Burundi. Kandi mwese mwibuke ko ibi ari byo amashyaka yo muri opposition nyarwanda ari byo duharanira, ari byo dusaba ubu.Icyo Kagame agamije avec sa main invisible derriere les evenements au Burundi, ni ukugirango iby'i Burundi bishwanyuke maze abone argument yo kuvuga ko ibyo by'isangira ry'ubutegetsi hutu/tutsi atari byo kamara kuko n'i Burundi bitagize icyo bimara bityo ko bamureka ibyo mu Rwanda akabikora uko abyumva, uko abyishakira(asseoir une domination tutsi absolue au Rwanda).
(Gasana Anastase, umuyobozi wa PRM/MRP-ABASANGIZI, ishyaka rigamije gusangiza abanyarwanda bose ibyiza by'igihugu cyabo ntawe uhejejwe inyuma y'urugi).
 

2015-04-28 14:22 GMT-04:00 Samuel Desire <sam4des@yahoo.com>:
 Mu Rwanda ho ni "one direction thinking". Kagame we abaturage basabwe kumuvugira ko agomba gukomeza gutegeka. Propagande yaratangiye. Nta wavuga ati nsishaka ko Kagame yongera kwiyamamaza. Murumva koko mu Rwanda wavuga iki kindi uretse kuvuga ibyo Kagame ashaka. Nabe no mu Burundi. Bo bateye imbere muri Demokarasi. Ikibazo ni uko hari abashaka kubyitwaza kugira ngo habe violence. Bamwe bakaba boshya abaturage ngo bajye guhungira mu Rwanda, maze berekane ko hari ibibazo mu Buraundi, ko mu Rwanda nat bihari. Ko ubutegetsi bwa Kagame bukunzwe n'abanyarwanda bose.  Ko kagame we nta kibazo afite cyo gufata manda ya gatatu.


 
Yemwe yemwe uyu mugabo Kotant Venant ko muzi nk'umuntu ukuze usheshe akanguhe kandi wanasomye koko ibi niwe wabyanditse cg ni abamwibye email ye?
Ubu koko Kotant Venant  yasobanura itegeko mumategeko  y' uburundi Nyiricyubahiro Nkurunziza yishe mukuba yashobora gutorerwa kwiyamamariza kuyobora u Burundi?

Ese Kota Venant wibuka ko Nkurunziza yatowe n' abayoboke hafi 800 bari munama ya Kongre y' ishyaka abarizwamo CNDD-FDD? NIba se abo bamurwanya bizeye intsinzi kuki batihangana ngo bategereze ko amatora aba noneho bakazatora undi bityo bazajye mumumihandfa bagaragaza ko bibwe amajwi?Hari ahandi wabonye abantu bigaragambiriza ikintu kitari cyabo uretse abo banyapolitiki ngo na société civile y' u Burundi?

Harya ubundi ko abakandida bemerwa bwanyuma mukuziyamama kumwanya wa Prezida w' u Burundi na Komisiyo ishinzwe amatora kandi iyo komisiyo ikaba ntacyo iratangaza kuki abigaragambya batategereje icyemezo cya komisiyo?Ese ko uvuga ko Nkurunziza yishe itegeko abo bigaragambya nihe bamuregeye bakavuga ko inkiko zabarenganyije cg zakoreshejwe ikirego cyabo ntigihabwe agaciro maze bakabona kwigaragambya? Ariko ni bigaragambye nuko byibura ubwo burenganzira Nkurunziza yabahaye ndetse akabaha naho amaradio avugira.

Harya iyo FPR na Kagame ushima ko ubizi hashize imyaka irenga 20 iyobora hari umuntu cg ishyirahamwe wari wabona ryigaragambya rinenga Leta y' u Rwanda?Ibinyamakuru cg Radio bigerageje kubikora harya wibuka ibyo bikanirwa?

Kota nyabune ihangane wongere usesengura wabona hari ubundi buryo wavumbuye buha agaciro abateza akavuyo m' uburundi barengera igihugu.

Ndongera nkubwire nti kandi aho wagereranyije ubutegetsi bwa Nkurunziza na 1ere ministre w' u Rwanda nabyo ntibihura ahubwo iyo uvuga uti opposition y'i Burundi nizo ngirwa société civile nizo wagombye kugereranya na opposition yo mu Rwanda mugihe cyo kwa Habyalimana yihaye kwiyomeka kuri FPR kurusha gusesengura ibibazo abanyarwanda bari barimo.

Ibyabaye nibyakurikiye ntiwabibonye?

Njye ndemeza ndaciye kuruhande ko opposition na société civile b' i Burundi byacengewe kandi bikaba  biri gukoreshwa nyamara ubakoresha ariwe ubifitemo inyungu.

Nta n' isoni abantu bo muri CNDD -FDD baraba batumvikana hagati yabo kandi ibyo birasanzwe za Radio RPA na Bonesha zikirirwa zitwika igihugu ngo ni nigenoside igiye gukorwa?Aba bagabo se hagati yabo cg na FNL ko aribo bahanganye murwego rwa politiki kandi tukaba tuziko bose ari abahutu nibo bagiye gukorana hagati yabo jenosayidi?
Harya ko UBURUNDI buhana imbibi n' u Rwanda ,Tanzaniya,RDC wasobanura ute impunzi ziriguhungira gusa i Rwanda kandi dusanzwe tuziko abahungira muri Tanzaniya bafatwa neza ndetse bakanatuzwa bakanahabwa n' ubwenegihugu?

Harya ujya ubona hari ibindi binyamakuru byandika k' u Burundi nk' iby' i Rwanda ? Twavuga ibinyamakuru:Igihe,Umuryango,Umuseke,Imirasire,Kigalitoday,Rushyashya etc ... kandi byose byandika inkuru zimwe.Ubwo ntacyo ubonamo?Ongere usesengure kabona niyo waba wanga Nkurunziza ntabwo wagombye gushyigikira igituma abarundi bamarana.


Jean Damascène Ntaganzwa.

N.B:Ibindi siniriwe mbyandikaho kuko nabonye abandi nkaba Zac Biampa,Anastase Gasana,Rwembe ,Samuel babisobanuye kandi najye tukaba ibyo bavuze tubyemeranyaho.



 
Aliko mwa bantu mwe nubwo RPF na bwana Kagame bakora byinshi bibi, aliko hali aho bakabilizwa! 
Uliya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza niwe wanze kunva ko kwica amategeko bibyara invururu, kandi yarabibonye henshi muli Afrika.  Ninde washyigikira igikorwa cya Nkurunziza cyo guhakana mandats ebyili yakoze yitwaje ko ngo iyambere atayihawe n'abarundi?   Ibi ni bwa buhendanyi n'ubusuma mu masezerano bikunze kuranga abanyapolitiki b'abanyafurika, kandi bifite ingaruka mbi cyane. Biratuma abarundi babura isimburana litomoye ly'ububutegetsi Mandela yali yabihereye, bilicira n'abandi bose basonzeye democrasi no gusimburana ku butegetsi hubahilijwe abakandida n'amatora bidafifitse mu mwanya wa  za coups d'etat na za jenosayidi.  
Bwana Nkurunziza  yitwaza ngo ntiyatowe n'abaturage batabonetse bakegulira uburenganzira bwabo abadepite ngo babibakorere murunva ali imhanvu yunvikana yo guhakana mandat yakoze, noneho agahindukira akavuga ngo yakoze imwe gusa? Kuki se atarekeye abandi iyo mandat atemera maze agategereza izo ebyili avuga ko agomba guhabwa n'abaturage bahugutse? Puu, ntawe ugomba kwiba ubutegetsi ashaka kwikondera igihugu akigira akalima ke, hagomba kubahilizwa za Constitutions kandi ziba zitomoye uretse amabandi aba ashaka kuzivugisha ibyo zitavuga. Rwose abanyafurika bakwiye kunva ko ingoma z'abami ba nyili-ibihugu ahenshi zasezerewe muli Afrika!

Bwana Kagame na RPF ibyo bakora byose batobera Uburundi ntacyo bihindura, rwose ikosa na nyirabayazana w'ibera i Burundi ni 100% ilya bwana Pierre Nkurunziza na Cndd-FDD ye baliho bashora igihugu cyabo mu Rwabayanga. Ni nka bimwe 1ere ministre wa Habyarimana yaliho agurisha igihugu bayobora kwa RPF (Guichaoua, 2004) ngo arahima Habyarimana: amakosa ntabwo yabaye aya RPF ahubwo yabaye aya Habyarimana n'uwo mu premiere we, bombi n'abaturage benshi bahasiga agatwe, RPF ifata ingoma abaturage batishwe baba ingaruzwamuheto!
Niba n'aba bategetsi b'Uburundi balishe abo mu mashyaka yabo bashoboye, bakagombye kuba intwali bakemera bagatanga ikigarasha cy'umukandida mubo basigaranye kigatsindwa amatora, nuko andi mashyaka afite abashoboye agafata ubutegetsi agatangira ikivi (mandat) gishya mu mulima w'Uburundi bikulikije Itegeko-nshinga lyabo Mandela yabafashije kwandikira Arusha. 

Uvuze ko nyili urugo yapfuye siwe uba amwishe!



To: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
From: amakurunamateka@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 13:27:26 +0000
Subject: [amakurunamateka.com] Burindi sezera East African Community

 

Burindi sezera East African Community
 
Ibyo  muri East African Community ntibyumvikana:
 
Hashize iminsi mike Kenya itewe n'abaterroristes, hapafa bantu benshi. Ibi kandi byabaye inshuro nyinshi. Ibindi bihugu byo muri East Africa ntibyatabara, ikibazo bagihariye Kenya.
 
None dore ibibera mu Burundi, Ibindi bihugu bya East Africa biti irwarize.
 
Bya bindi byose bahora baririmba bya peace and security ni amagambo gusa.
 
U Burundi bwari bukwiye gusezera muri East African Community  kuko bigaragara ko Kagame yashyizeho abantu bo gutera imvururu mu Burundi no gutea ubwoba abaturage baboshya  ngo bahungire mu Rwanda, bityo bihe ingufu Kagame wiyumvamo ko ariwe mutegetsi wemewe mu karere. Ibi kandi yanabikoze kuri RDC aho yakomeje kuvuga ko ibibazo byayo ari ukubera governance mbi. No ku kibazo cy'Uburundi, Kagame ni uko abibona.







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